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Thursday, September 04, 2008

Happy Thursday!

Good Thursday morning everybody! It's a really big day in the Big Brother house but it's going to be an even bigger night. Now all we have to do is wait for it.

Everybody except for Jerry will be competing in the HOH competition this evening. I'm really hoping that Dan gets it. Memphis would be my second choice and Keesha last. I'm worried about Keesha working up the nerve to want to keep Jerry over Dan or Memphis if she wins it. But either way, it all depends on the POV competition. I just don't want Jerry to win that because it's really the most important competition of all at this point.

Have you heard yet about the Big Brother 11 rumors? Yep, another winter edition. Actually, I should say another possible winter edition. The reason for this is because Big Brother is listed as a midseason show on TVGuide.com's fall schedule lineup. It could be a mistake. It could be listed as only a possibility. Either way, I'm excited!

Did you catch the Late Late Show with Craig Ferguson last night? Julie Chen and the hamsters made yet another appearance. It was cute but Renny's sexual innuendo to Craig Ferguson about her husband laying pipe was just awkward. But how nice was it to see Memphis in something other than one of his v-neck t-shirts? Check out the video below if you missed it all.

There's a 99.9% possibility that Renny will be leaving tonight. Do you wish it was somebody else going instead? And who do you want to win the HOH competition this evening?


Update at 10:45 AM - Earlier this morning, Big Brother changed the pics on the memory wall to show pictures from previous competitions this season. After everybody studied them (some spent more time doing that than others), the pictures changed back to those of the hamsters like before. It's obvious then that the HOH competition tonight will have something to do about the competitions shown in those pictures. Join me back here tonight where I'll be live-blogging the show as it happens at 8:00 PM ET/7:00 PM CT. Good luck Dan!

Update at 4:23 PM - Awwww. Keesha and Renny are going to miss each other. Sad video below.

Posted by HamsterDame at September 4, 2008 05:27 AM

Comments

I want Renny to go home and I want Keesha to win HOH and POV. I love Renny and think she is so funny and will miss her but I think the other three, Dan, Memphis and Keesha have been the best players. I want Jerry to go home after Renny! I hope they don't flip and send Keesha home tonight. It would be smart of them if they did because Renny couldn't win anything if her life depended on it, so Dan or Memphis would for sure win HOH. Hope it doesn't happen though!

Posted by: Maggie at September 4, 2008 05:54 AM

Thanks for the clip of CF. Always nice not to have to go hunting for these things as you're so on top of things!
Of course I wish that it was Jerry that was leaving instead of Renny, but she did have to go to get Dan or Memphis in the F2, IMHO. Kinda of bittersweet. Good that she is leaving at the hands of Jerry instead of her friends. Don't think she would have handled it as well if one of the three had put her up. If they have favorite JH member again, she will certainly get as many votes as I can give her, should Dan not be in JH!
I want Dan to win HOH of course. Keesha really would think about keeping Jerry around. If she really thought about it, she would have a better chance with JH, with the nasty man over Dan and Memphis. I know that Memphis has many a deal with all, but I think he is most loyal to Dan. Also thinks he knows he has a better shot at winning with Dan over Keesha, so he could win HOH if not Dan. BUT and it's a BIG BUT, what really matters is POV. They can't let perv win that!
I saw that posting about winter BB yesterday and wondered myself if it was a mistake? Hope not, I would like to see a winter BB again with a much better cast than BB9!
Have been busier than a bee with school starting and have had to do my catching up on your site very early or late night. Things have calmed down a bit now and I will surely be right here tonight, keyboard and remote in hand!
Heh Grog, you out there? Continue to think about you and am hoping things are improving for you and yours. God's speed...

Posted by: diff at September 4, 2008 06:22 AM

HD, you are so right! What on earth was Renny thinking about making that comment about her husband laying pipe out of nowhere?! It's one thing to throw a good innuendo into the flow of conversation, but that was just weird...

Have to work at the shop tonight, so I'm thrilled that you will be live blogging! Hopefully the chatters will behave during live blogging this week!! At least I know how to mute them now.

Don't care who wins HOH this week, just care about POV! Go Dan!

Posted by: shopgirl at September 4, 2008 06:48 AM

well at this point i really want memphis to win the HOH. for two reasons...first, and most importantly, he needs to win for his safety. jerry has been talking a bluestreak to keesha about getting rid of memphis.... saying he has an alliance with everyone. duh! so does everyone else!! I can't have that. jerry needs to STFU!!...and secondly, i would love to see memphis' HOH room. he is the only one who hasn't ever won it.
i'm sad to see renny go but honestly she didn't try one bit this past week to save herself. she said she was going to fight but she just didn't. she isn't good at comps and that would be a good place to start her pitch to the boys but i think she just gave up. i hope she wins the 25 G's for most favorite. she entertained me a lot as well as others. she deserves it big time!!
if jerry wins the pov this week i'm not sure what i will do. i need that man to leave. he sickens me to no end...i have to change my feeds when he is on them!!! he's vile and repulsive to say the least. he had the nerve last night to sit and bash ryan and adam of BB9 last night because they sat around and trashed shiela after she left. i mean has he got brain damage? all the vulgar things he said about the house guests this season...especially keesha and dan? none of it had anything to do with game either. a lot of nerve truly!!! his family should move, change their phone numbers and not tell him!
if dan wins HOH i surly hope he returns the favor to memphis. dan is just so unreadable i'm not sure what he will do...and that scares me!!
exciting night no matter what! i can't wait!

Posted by: callie44 at September 4, 2008 07:40 AM

I love Renny and do not want to see here leave!!!

Posted by: Kristy at September 4, 2008 07:42 AM

HD, after having once again fought my way past a horde of tourists to get to work this morning, and then after experiencing a particularly poorly made and tasteless breakfast, it was and is so nice to click on the ever dependable Silly Hamsters before buckling down to work. I think you should change the name of your site to "SMILE" since you put a smile on so many of our faces every morning, noon and night, with your delightful and welcoming posts that engage us all in such fun discussion. Thank you!

I can't wait for tonight. I agree about Dan winning. The only way he stays safe is by winning. Keesha is my second choice as I would like to see her in the final two (I do not think she would sell out Dan and Memphis for final three. She is the only one of the three who is sentimental and her sentiment seems to be with her alliance. But does anyone know if Renny has talked to Keesha about strategy for final three?). Anyway, as we all know, it will come down to the POV. Yikes, I can't even imagine Jerry winning either of the titles this week. I definitely think all three of the others would vote Jerry out if they can. Jerry is now Memphis' number one target because Memphis knows that Jerry would now thump him if he could.

I did watch Craig, but couldn't decide if Renny was trying to impress Craig with the info (that maybe Craig or his Dad were at one point pipe layers in Scotland and Renny knew that) or whether she was indeed being a naughty minx.

Oh dear... 9.25 hours to go....


Posted by: BenF at September 4, 2008 07:43 AM

I'm hoping and praying that keesha wins hoh tonight! Hopefully jerry goes next week, but if not then one of the guys needs to go. i do like both of them but how boring was it last year with the two guys left in the house?! Besides, I think with a keesha/dan f2, the outcome will be hard to predict. But hope keesha takes it all!!!

Posted by: stacey at September 4, 2008 07:56 AM

i will be sad to see renny go...but it's her time to leave...i REALLY want dan to win hoh again, it's the only way to guarantee he will be safe next week because jerry MUST GO!!!!!it's only 6 weeks overdo!!! i love the Renigades and it will be fun to see their dr sessions...can't wait for tonight....and the jury house will be nice to see, just hope they don't show the houseguest...LOL...don't really want to see or hear from any of them....i hope there is a winter BB...i hope they get more people like dan, renny and keesha so it will be fun to watch....only 9 more hours!!!!

Posted by: debi at September 4, 2008 07:58 AM

Well, it's good we can agree to disagree. I do not want to see Dan win. That's the difference between your 30 something and my 50 something. I would like to see Keesha win HOH and Jerry POV just to put those two smug boys in their place. You all may say Jerry is disgusting but quite honestly they all are. The only true entertainment would come if Jerry and Keesha remain.

Posted by: Jean Haggard at September 4, 2008 08:02 AM

Jean:

I'm a huge Dan fan and I'm 50-something, as well, so age has nothing to do with it. Perhaps what you think is smugness in Dan and Memphis is actually confidence, and I think they are confident because they have really played the game, and they have really done it without making it personal. I like Keesha, too, but early on many of her decisions were definitely personal (i.e., Angie).

When it comes to disgusting, no one else comes close to Jerry...

Posted by: shopgirl at September 4, 2008 08:25 AM

of course i want Jerry to go home, but since thats not a possibility, I guess Renny will do. I hope Dan or Memphis win HOH, and I really hope Dan is in the F2, since he is the only one really playing the game.

Posted by: jaime at September 4, 2008 08:33 AM

Well I want Renny to stay but after last night when she made Dan and Memphis mad theres probably no shot now.

I want Keesha to win to shake things up, and I see boring times ahead for the houseguests.

Posted by: rennyfan at September 4, 2008 08:34 AM

every year i feel the same about this time of the game, so i'm not giving up...i'm still hoping Bunky wins!

Posted by: elytheeel at September 4, 2008 08:39 AM

I think the BB11 stuff is just strike insurance (the actor's union hasn't agreed on a contract yet, and they might end up striking)...more than likely it's gonna be summer 09 (as it should be-the winter edition just seemed off)

If Keesha does win HOH it wouldn't matter- she'd have to win POV to save Jerry if she wanted to (because she'd control the only person voting in that case)...HOH is only about guaranteeing the F3 spot now. Kessha might want to consider keeping Jerry though if she can- if it's her vs Dan vs Memphis at F3, she'd have to win HOH or she's gone (Jerry would take her over Dan- I'm not sure about Memphis). She can beat Jerry, she could beat Dan- she can't beat Memphis (In fact Dan should be considering this too- Dan could beat Jerry or Keesha- he can't beat Memphis). Once we know who the POV holder is, things become clear (if Memphis wins HOH tonight, this is all moot anyway).

Dan and Memphis won't flip tonight- they both know Renny doesn't have a lot of enemies on the jury, so she's too dangerous to keep. Renny's also the only person Memphis is really worried about- he has deals with the other 3, but Renny has never liked him.

Posted by: David at September 4, 2008 08:40 AM

I wish Jerry was going but he not so I want Renny to go over Keesha. I want Keesha to win HOH and POV. Jerry to go next week. I want Keesha to get to F2. I do not care if it Memphis or Dan with her in F2 I just want Keesha to win BB. I feel that she help Memphis and Dan out to get this far in the game. Also it would be nice to have a women win this year.

Posted by: Susan at September 4, 2008 08:50 AM

Thanks for the info about a possible BB11. That would be great and yet not. I do have a life and I always find it after BB. lol. Right on Callie44, I thought for sure I was the only one who changed feeds when Jerry came on. Just cannot stand the man,ARGGH. Time for him to leave. Also, hoping BB does segment about the guys saying DUDE. It cracks me up, they can say it fifty times in a conversation. Tonight hoping for Dan or Memphis to win and then win POV too. I would like to see Ashley.

Posted by: kathi at September 4, 2008 08:55 AM

I did watch Craig, but couldn't decide if Renny was trying to impress Craig with the info (that maybe Craig or his Dad were at one point pipe layers in Scotland and Renny knew that)

BenF, you always go out of your way to give people the benefit of the doubt. I think she rehearsed it in her head beforehand, awkwardly jammed it into the conversation, and thought that she was being absolutely hilarious. The more I see of her, the more I dislike her. Tone it down, honey. Way down.

It looks to me like CF is forced by his bosses to do these BB segments and would rather not. Does David Letterman still have to do the Survivor segments? The last time I saw him doing one, he clearly hated it.

Posted by: gray at September 4, 2008 09:00 AM

JH...I'm 50 something, but that doesn't make me dislike Dan and think the Renegades are impertinent babes. I would like to see Dan win, possibly Keesha, and least Memphis. But any of the 3 is a victory for the Fab 4. Most important comp of the season is POV, and I mainly do not want to see Jerry win it. I want him to lose it, and the other 3 celebrate dancing on his figuratively limp body. I couldn't bring myself to say DB, not even about Jerry. Memphis thinks he has everyone in his corner, so I would like to see him busted on his 3 alliances, but it is still imperitive to get Jerry out next week. He is too intolerable to the fans and the HG's to stay in the house any longer. I would also like to see the 3 studying more, you don't win memory comps with your good looks and sparkling personality.

Posted by: Dee at September 4, 2008 09:39 AM

Hey, HD, I just have a quick question. I've never looked at the fall lineup site until now, so that's all new to me. It says the fall line up for 2008 & Big Brother is listed as 'midseason'. Could that be because the show ends in September, which is pretty much in the fall? Have you seen anything stating that Big Brother will air in 2009?

Thanks!!

Posted by: bb4l at September 4, 2008 09:49 AM

JEAN....I DITTO SHOPGIRL....i am over 50 and i want dan to win...he has PLAYED the game better than ANYONE else...yes dr will included....maybe you like jerry cause he's close to your age....jerry is vulgar and has played personal....you can't do that and be liked...dan has NEVER made a personal attack on anyone...he plays with a stradegy that is exceptional and that is why he...DAN...deserves to win....as long as jerry goes next week i really don't care who the final two are as long as dan is in it

Posted by: debi at September 4, 2008 10:00 AM

I guess that is true Gray. As long as children and animals aren't being harmed, a heinous crime hasn't been committed, deliberate cruelty hasn't been employed, the Anti-Christ hasn't appeared, someone hasn't forced me to eat lima beans or brussel sprouts or chained me to a fence and forced me to watch a Sean Penn movie marathon, and Jerry hasn't wiped a booger on me, touched me with his unwashed potty hands or forced me to listen to one of his long pointless stories, I will always give someone the benefit of the doubt. Don't know that that means I go out of my way, but I guess that is who I am.

Posted by: BenF at September 4, 2008 10:02 AM

Ditto comments by Shopgirl and Dee to Jean regarding the thoughts of we 50-somethings. And... go Dan!

HD - you are queen of the blogs. Whenever I miss something, I know I can come here and find it.

You Rock!... of course you are a fellow Texan, so one should not be surprized! Thanks so much for all the nice things you do to keep us tuned in!

Posted by: Dixie at September 4, 2008 10:06 AM

I'd love to see Renny stay, but I really don't see it happening. She didn't even try to save herself, and she wasn't good enough in comps to win the veto. Gee, I'm having a hard time rooting for anybody. I guess at this point this show's been on so long that they all remind me of somebody I've liked better in the past. There have been older contestants on other shows like amazing race and survivor, but I can't root for Jerry. He's just a mean, backstabbing floater. Keesha reminds of Diane in season 5 where Memphis could be the one to kick her ass out and still get her vote. I have a feeling Memphis will be the last HOH, and Keesha won't really try.

Posted by: Derek at September 4, 2008 10:09 AM

For real, Jerry and Keesha were making out in the sauna room?

Now, something like that would totally throw off expectations.

A winter BB would be nice, but since they haven't really advertised, they'd have to be creative in finding players or pull from past seasons.

James Rhine was contacted via myspace, guess it could happen.

Posted by: ClayPo at September 4, 2008 10:09 AM

Also, I was gonna add I was happy to see Adam win BB9. I know it's completely unrelated, but does anybody know if he actually donated the 100K to the autism foundation or whatever it was?

Posted by: Derek at September 4, 2008 10:15 AM

Morning
I havent even read the latest yet...I had a thought that I must express :-)
Keesha MUST win the HOH, she may even need to get Memphis evicted.
I like Memphis but I think at this point Keesha's best bet for a win is to go to the end with Dan.Yes I said it, Keesha can beat Dan.
Memphis will not take Kee to f2.He has been using her for weeks.
Ugggghhhh this game.
Its time for a woman to win.
I try not to hate but Maggie, well you know Maggie :-(
I want darling sweet trashy mouthed Keesha to win win win!
Bye Renny we will miss you Dawlin'

Posted by: maru at September 4, 2008 10:16 AM

I'm sad to see Renny go but its time...I'm gonna miss her. She's so much fun! I REAALLLYYY wish it was Jerry instead. He's such a buzzkill! The FAB FOUR would have a blast if he was gone! Oh well.DAN FOR NEXT HOH!!!! Because its Jerry's time to go!!!!! Let's do this like Judas!!!!!

Posted by: mimi at September 4, 2008 10:24 AM

HD and all. I've been reading this blog for years and have the feeds. This is the first time I feel I MUST add my two cents...I am a 74 year old female and think Jerry is the most disgusting person ever on Big Brother, which makes me think that it is not an age issue. Feel like I know you all...Go Dan!!! (and this from a non-catholic liberal democrat)

Posted by: bard at September 4, 2008 10:25 AM

I know it's completely unrelated, but does anybody know if he actually donated the 100K to the autism foundation or whatever it was?

I don't know, but would love to find out. When Adam said that he would do that, didn't ChenBot say that she was going to check up on it to see if he did it? OK, ChenBot, what is your report?

Posted by: gray at September 4, 2008 10:46 AM

What I would love to see if Keesha wins HOH is for her to put up Dan and Memphis on the block. And hopefully one of them will go home, preferably Memphis. I am one of the few that doesn't think Keesha is a bimbo. And if she uses her brains instead of her heart she will put those two up, who have no intentions of taking her to the finals anyway, and this way she can show America she is not just a dumb blonde. It seems like Jerry is trying to tell her to watch out for the dynamic duo, but I am not to sure she is listening. Should be a great show and I hope HD is live blogging.

From HD - I will definitely be live-blogging tonight.

Posted by: xtex88 at September 4, 2008 10:46 AM

I wish Weasel Dan was leaving instead of Renny. I've been annoyed all season by his innocent act, immaturity, and yelling at the camera in DR. I don't like the way he lurks during conversations then scurries away when asked questions or at the hint of confrontation. That stupid PoV roulette charade was the last straw for me, along with "the renegades" and their lame "handshake." Yuck.

Posted by: Smark at September 4, 2008 10:59 AM

Derek, I Googled "adam big brother winner donation" and came up with this, but who can say if it is accurate?

Looks like you can replace "heart of gold" with "tongue of silver" for Big Brother 9 winner Adam. Since the jury Q&A when Adam told his evicteed HGs that he planned to give $100K to charity, while soon-to-be loser Ryan said he'd get something nice for Jen, the plans seem to have changed.

According to BuddyTV, Adam has now decided against making that very large donation to his charity organization. Instead he plans to talk with some financial advisers and decide how to invest his winnings, which I've read come out to closer to $250,000 after taxes.

I can't say that I'm surprised. There's no rule against lying about certain things and not others. It was what the jury wanted to hear and it at least helped his 6-1 win over Ryan.


Maybe he was not feeling so charitable upon learning that he had been fired. I guess if his investments pan out, then he will make big charity donations, lol. And it looks like you have it figured out, Muffy1. People actually do tell lies in this game.

Posted by: gray at September 4, 2008 11:00 AM

elytheeel,
Lmao, lmao, lmao, waiting for Bunky to win, that is hilarious:).

Posted by: xtex88 at September 4, 2008 11:17 AM

I hope Keesha wins POV and realizes that neither Dan nor Memphis will take her to the final two. I doubt she's smart enough to realize that though.

Here's hoping she puts up Jerry and Dan and Jerry wins the veto and sends that over-hyped, annoying, sleazebag Dan to the jury house.

Posted by: delia at September 4, 2008 11:32 AM

Thanks gray for finding that out! That's what I figured. He seemed very sincere, and I bet that's what got him a lot of votes; I really expected him to lose. I was kind of skeptical, figuring taxes would eat a huge chunk of that. If he really cared, he could donate a smaller amount to a number of other charities for the handicapped. (He did deserve to be fired, in my opinion).

You are so right smark! He yells in DR cause he's trying to be Eric from last year, and a copycat of Will, James, etc. It just seems like he's playing BB by the numbers. His lone original move was the veto roulette, and I still predict that'll cost him the game, since he'll likely make final 2. C'mon, did we see anybody else this season smirking, winking at the camera, talking to the camera?

Posted by: Derek at September 4, 2008 11:36 AM

Xtex88:

I didn't think/realize that that is what people were saying about Keesha -- that she is a bimbo. If you look at some of the other sites with popularity polls, you will see that her popularity has steadily grown every week and that Renny's has taken a nosedive. In any event, I think there was more Keesha blonde/Hooters bashing when the other "cats" were still in the house.

I think Dan and Memphis would both seriously consider taking Keesha with them, especially Dan. If Keesha did have to evict one of them she should evict Memphis because he will beat her in a vote. Dan won't.

But Xtex88, I really wish you would concentrate all your BB psychic energy on getting Jerry evicted from the house this next week. :)

Posted by: BenF at September 4, 2008 11:57 AM

ClayPo says: "For real, Jerry and Keesha were making out in the sauna room?"

OK, that is just gross, ewwww! Thanks, now I won't be able to get THAT image out of my head for awhile. As Phoebe from Friends used to say, "My eyes, my eyes!"

Posted by: Pat at September 4, 2008 12:00 PM

so sad to see renny go, but she didnt do well in the last pov, she shouldnt of drank that wine, we will miss you dawlin, hope your house is okay in new orleans. now lets get jerry out, when he was complaining about ryan and adam talking dirty about sheila, i guess he doesnt or cant remember the names he has called keesha behind her back, they werent really very nice, hes a vile perverted dirty old drunken man, get rid of him. my thoughts. you go keesha bring home the money. :)

Posted by: meemee at September 4, 2008 12:03 PM

Actually Derek... Michelle did a lot of winking, smirking and talking to the camera this season.

Posted by: Dixie at September 4, 2008 12:19 PM

First...yes, I will be sad to see Renny go but so hope Jerry goes next week. He is beyond disgusting! Second....they wouldn't call it BB11 if it was part of this group and it's in the fall...just my opinion anyway. Third...someone commented that Keesha made the boys mad last night, I didn't see it..what happened?

HD...you're the best! Thanks for keeping us informed.

Posted by: Terri at September 4, 2008 12:56 PM

Lol BenF, I will do that just for you:). I don't check other polls out so I am glad to hear they have a positive view on Keesha. My niece hates her and is always calling her a bimbo so I presumed that is what the majority of the young ones thought. I am glad to hear otherwise:). BenF, I can't stand Jerry, but I hate to see what happened to Shelia last season, happen to Keesha this season. And I really do like Keesha. It would be great to see Keesha and Dan in the final two, but I really don't think Dan will take her, I really don't. But like I said, I will send out a little BB psychic energy toward wanting Jerry out just for you:).

Posted by: xtex88 at September 4, 2008 01:38 PM

Derek:

Dixie is right; Michelle did address the cameras directly. And let's not forget April in that category.

It just tells me that those players had a little better understanding that they were on cameras 24/7 with more than just the camera operators watching. Although why April would do the Mattress Mambo with Ollie knowing about the live feeds is beyond me. In his extended exit interview with Julie Chen, Ollie seemed a little surprised by it...

Posted by: shopgirl at September 4, 2008 02:13 PM

I don't want Renny to leave!! Or Keesha for that matter. Wishing it was Jerry!!! I want Dan to win HOH.

Posted by: Sharon at September 4, 2008 02:53 PM

It would be cool if you could re-play(not sure if thats the word exactly) the timing of your liveblog writings for west coast people because I really like watching it on my TV but it would be cool to read your blogs while watching.

From HD - You could do that in a sense. Just load up the site on a laptop or something somewhere where you could see the TV and then replay my liveblog. Of course, you'll have to scroll down as the show goes on (it won't do it automatically for you) but that might work.

Posted by: Shawn at September 4, 2008 03:25 PM

Well, this is somewhat off-topic, sorry HD, but I know that several of you have commented about Keesha's missing tooth and so I thought I'd do a search online about this to find out what happened. Here is what I just read on another site:

"Keesha tells Renny she is getting her teeth worked on when she gets out. She says she has to have a tooth implant put in on her top tooth. She tells Renny how she lost her tooth. She said it happened at work. She said she was eating something and bit into something and it just cracked. She said she called her boyfriend at work crying about her tooth busting and he came and got her and took her to look for a dentist because hers was closed. She said they found a dentist they did a quick emergency surgery and took it out. She said the dentist told her she had to wait at least a month to let her gum heal and that is what she has to look forward to when she gets out. She says that she hates that it is missing.....but that she can laugh at herself."

Apparently this conversation just took place sometime earlier today. I don't know if any of you feed watchers happened to see this? In any event, this kind of endears Keesha to me even more. Yes she is into her looks, yet she can laugh at herself, and she can go on a national TV show not looking 100% perfect. So maybe the rest of us just shouldn't make that big of a deal out of it. Just my opinion though.

Posted by: Pat at September 4, 2008 04:02 PM

Thanks Dixie and shopgirl! I only see some of the live shows so I was unaware of the others doing it too. It just seems like the shows I do catch Dan gets all the screen time. Although last show I watched I coulda swore Dan's DR's were the only ones being shown, but I actually counted and they were being rotated, but I only noticed Dan's because he was so loud.

Posted by: Derek at September 4, 2008 10:00 PM

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