Idiot. Idiot. Idiot. Might as well pack your bags, Dan.

He has made a friend in Renny, lost a friend in Keesha, and it doesn't matter with Ollie or Michelle.

Yeah, I don't like it either. This may bite Dan in the ass big time. If Jerry wins POV, or Ollie and April do and take Jerry off, there will be trouble. Dan says deal is off then but WTF, you can't put your closest ally up for eviction and then just hope it all plays out the way you want it to?
I want Ollie to go, and take Michelle with you too. I thought she was ok for the longest time but I want her and her baby talk GONE! LOL

man i really liked Dan tiull now but his deal and noms are suspect at best. not his best move i think

Damn, I said Ollie and April. I meant Ollie and Michelle!!

I dunno, I'm not a Memphis fan. *dodges sticks and stones* I think he's right in his assessment about who will trust him if he puts up Jerry and Memphis. He'll have Keesha and Renny behind him, and he'll have Ollie and Michelle (who ARE fierce competitors when they need to be) behind him as well. Jerry will go home and let's be honest...Jerry's won 2 ALMOST 3 POV's and he was the first HOH. Jerry IS a threat. I'm cool with the noms.

I sorta like the nominations..very interesting.

You are totally right! Stupid stupid stupid stupid. He should of just of put up Michelle and Ollie, and said he made the deal to see if he Ollie would expose any alliances he has. If he is going to break his word and backdoor Michelle anyways, he should do it sooner than later. He is going to be in jeopardy on Thursday with Double Eviction. Oh well. If worst comes to worst I think Jerry would go over Memphis anyways. Stupid stupid stupid stupid!

Oh my! Dan! Of all people to put up there why Memphis??? I'm sitting here saying "Wow" over and over after learning about this. All I can say in his defense is he HAS TO be thinking Memphis is a pawn and regardless of who wins POV then Michelle or Ollie will go up and them or Jerry will go out the door. It NEVER works out that way! I'm shocked he is playing this way. I would say there is a 10% chance it'll work the way he wants it to and a 90% chance something will go off kilter. Poor Dan...you are probably gone in the double eviction. Now you'll have Keesha, Memphis, and everyone else thinking about what you did to YOUR alliance. Silly rabbit (or hamster I should say).

SO STUPID! what a F-N Idoit!
Geez Dan! you were my favorite WTF are you thinking???

ok, done venting =)

Let's look deeper into these nominations.

Ollie wants Memphis out. So he tells Dan to put up Memphis. Dan agrees because he thinks he has the votes to keep him. He has kept his word.

Putting up Jerry was an easy out, for the entire house. He knows that Renny and Keesha will vote Jerry out because Keesha likes Memphis and Renny hates Jerry.

Ollie and Michelle vote Memphis, Keesha and Renny votes out Jerry, and Dan break the tie. Bye bye Jerry. The house is happy to be rid of the geezer, all except Memphis, who was the pawn.

Dan also thinks that Memphis will do everything to win the POV and his win will allow him to "backdoor" Michelle. We have not seen a backdoor yet this season. I think Michelle is Dan's real target, but needs a Memphis win or removal to do so.

Should be interesting tonight on BBAD, since I do not have the feed.

BTW, how much do the feeds cost per season / month?

No one puts Memphy in a corner! He's going to throw a tantrum and throw things. (Pretty please?)

Hopefully, Jerry (PawPaw!) will tell Dan to rot in hell again.

Oh, and Dan, pack up the two outfits you brought into the house. Buh bye.

Please I am sitting here waiting for someone to tell me why Memphis. I thought they were pals? Theories anyone?

I can't even post, I am speechless? Have to give this alot of thought!!

I also wanted to say that I want Michele out, she makes me sick, but it would be nice to see her as the last one to the jury house. I would love it! Geez I am mean:).

WTF were you thinking Dan.... Ollie can't do anything in this house but yet you let him RUN your HOH. Did you forget about confession It heals all bad deeds!!!! You will be the second eviction next week with that move. Even if Jerry doesn't win POV, and nominations stay the same, Memphis will not forget this stupid, stupid move on your part... Damn, Just when I thought the game was going to get good!

Lol lol lol diff!

I didn't see what deals were made, but I don't think it's a bad play to nominate Jerry and Memphis. Dan is all about not being a target, and this keeps him safe on both sides for now. It's perfect for him. Keesha is no threat to anyone. And it could be a good way to backdoor Ollie or Michelle.

Wouldn't Dan be breaking his word if he back doored Ollie?

I think that in the long run this will work out..I really can't see Jerry getting off the block.. Memphis will come down someone will get the veto and take hime down.Nobody whats Jerry there anymore.. We just have to hope he puts someone good up to replace Memphis.. I mean really sorry to say but dan can't stand Jerry.. And i thought he would put him up.. i just thought it would have been Michele or ollie beside him.. So its a longshot but it could work out in the end...

I think that in the long run this will work out..I really can't see Jerry getting off the block.. Memphis will come down someone will get the veto and take hime down.Nobody whats Jerry there anymore.. We just have to hope he puts someone good up to replace Memphis.. I mean really sorry to say but dan can't stand Jerry.. And i thought he would put him up.. i just thought it would have been Michele or ollie beside him.. So its a longshot but it could work out in the end...

Pack your bags Dan your out the door on Thursday. What a freaking idiot!

Okay guys, been listening ,reading all I could today....What I got out of all of it is ....

Dan has a plan, it's to backdoor Michelle.. He think if she feels comfortable she won't play as hard in the POV and she is a tough one to beat, so, feeling safe she will not be playing all out...I SURE hope it works..so far, THIS is the plan I heard from Dan..

I am so so so so so so so so so so so happy!!!!! Finally something that I was hoping for happened. That was the first time this season, now I hope Michelle or Ollie win pov do not use it and bye bye Memphis. YEAH YEAH YEAH. OLLIE AND MICHELLE FINAL 2

for all you memphis lovers i want you to watch on cbs site the first episode..in it he says he's been hustling for money since he was 12..he's played women for cars and a $2k sports jacket..but then in that episode he says he needs a car badly cause he doesnt have one..i guess its a bad time of year for whoring out onesself..then he gets upset cause a few episodes later he's called a womanizer..not upset a raging lunatic..cmon ladies do you really like this guy or do you like his exterior..do you want memphis to date your daughter..do you want him to win $500k..

Dan, Dan, Dan...

I know you can't hear me Dan, but hat are you thinking. Don't you know from watching all the other BB seasons that when someone gives their word on BB it never means a thing. If you have watched any of the previous seasons you must have learned that this game can not be played honestly. You should have broken your word (which means nothing on BB) and put up Ollie or
Manchelle along with Jerry. If this does not work out for you Dan, you could be gone next week during the double eviction.

I will die if it is Ollie or Michele in the end, just die:). Kells, I hope you heard right. I am looking forward to seeing BBAD and see if I can pick up on what Dan is thinking.

Sad Hamsters,

Such a shame. As I feared, looks like the Peter Principle proven again.

Simply stated, the Peter Principle holds that in a hierarchy, members are promoted so long as they work competently. Sooner or later they are promoted to a position at which they are no longer competent (their "level of incompetence"), and there they remain.

Clearly that's what has happened here. Bad move Danny Boy. I had such hopes for you.

Such a shame,

DRATS

P.S. Kimberly, I responded to you question under HD's earlier post, "Waiting On Dan". I trust it answers your question succinctly.

I am going to be on pins and needles until the pov comp.

Somebody stirrin up the pot! Good grief, there is always one.

Stupid is as Stupid does!!!!! That's all I have to say, Thank you Forest Gump for your wisdom

I think it is really a smart move. If Dan has any
chance to win he needs to get rid of Memphis. If
not Memphis is a sure winner.

What was Dan thinking ? I'm so dissappointed with him. He's never going to win now, he should just volunteer to leave !

Welp, thats it for me till POV! I am not watching, I refuse. I cant stand to see the final 2 aka Michelle and Ollie, sit and laugh about how F-ing stupid Dan is and how great it is for them!
I'll check in on here from time to time...love you all but I just cant...peace out

Kimberly,

Stirring the pot? Quite the contrary darling; you asked a question. I answered it.

I'm sorry. Were you hoping I would not?

DRATS

P.S. By the way Sweetums, the missing "r" was just to show I care.

Drats- I think you are a little confused. I never said you were stirring the pot. I like it when you respond to me.

Finally some excitement. It will all go fine if Dan is right and Michelle doesn't play too hard for the POV. He's thinking the POV is due to be a luxury POV and he is betting Michelle will go for the luxuries. If one of his people gets the POV then he will break his word and backdoor MIchelle. If they don't then he will break the tie and vote out Jerry. The two possible flies in the ointment are if Renny votes Memphis out instead of the way Dan wants her to vote and/or if Michelle/Ollie gets the POV and takes Jerry off... but then Dan can put the other one of them up and backdoor them.

Exciting!!!!!!

I think Dan hit his head against the wall too hard during the HOH competition. If he doesn't backdoor Ollie, he's going home. It's double elimination this week. No room for stupid decisions.

Way to go Dan!!!
It's like Libra said, "It's time to play the game." and now you are.
Wouldn't it be really funny if his true plan was to ditch Memphis??? LMAO

Also a shout out to alau53 - your post was the best !!!!

ali :)

Hi HD, I'm not too sure about Dan's noms either, if I were him I never would have kept my word with Ollie, if you remember in the beginning it was Ollie, Brian, and Dan, and Ollie totally flaked on Dan, so I would have just told Ollie you broke your word first so too bad. I heard Ollie on the feeds tell Jerry that if him or Michelle win POV they're taking Jerry off, and Dan said he is not gonna keep his word about letting Ollie pick replacement nom, so as long as Jerry dosen't win, it might all still work out and Michelle will be back doored.

Some Random Thoughts...

Hold everything gang! Have you forgotten that even on Double Eviction night there is POV? Even though Dan can't play for HOH, he can play for POV. If he were put up he can play to try to take himself off. Plus he can be well rested since he is in the HOH room. There is still some life in Danny Boy.

Dan may also be thinking that back in the beginning when the earth's crust was hardening in the BB house, there were three that teamed up. Brian is gone, but Ollie and Dan are still there. So maybe they can rekindle that. But we also know that Ollie is the biggest gossip, so that can be an "out" for Dan to put up Ollie or Michelle since Ollie did NOT keep his word about keeping his mouth shut with regard to the deal - If someone wins POV and takes Memphis or Jer off.

Also, Memphis is closer to Keesha than Dan, so... ya never know. Frankly, Dan really doesn't have true close alliance in the game with anyone. Memphis, kinda but it is split. And if the vote were to be a tie - Dan has the deciding vote and can keep Memphis. No Harm, No Foul.

Kimberly, Kimberly, Kimberly... what are we going to do about you? Tisk, Tisk. (Shakes head and shuffles off...)

Kimberly,

I know you do Angelcakes. That's why you're amoung my favourite of all Hamsters. (Although, there are definite times I think somebody put a stop payment on your reality check.)

Clearly then, your pot-stirring statement was directed elsewhere.

So, perhaps you would be so kind as to alleviate our confusion, and explain of what pot-stirring you were speaking, or to whom the comment was directed?

Sloppy Exhibitionist April'n Ollie Kisses,

DRATS

ok here is my 2 cents....I like Dan is my first comment and I am ok with his choice of nominees because....The ideal situation is for Renny to win the pov and take down Memphis. At that point, we have Jerry on the block, renny is safe as pov holder, memphis is safe since he was taken down, that leaves the choice of Keesha (dan's safe player) and Michelle(Ollie's safe player) and Ollie to go up. So at that point everyone is "safe" that isn't up so then Dan can use that to justify putting up Michelle because nobody would put up there own safe player.

Wheelie,

I think you may be giving the lad too much credit, luv.

DRATS

I agree totally with Kells. I can't believe Kimberly.

Hey you guys, which name for Bryan do you like best? Bubblehead, or Tweety Bird?

Are you guys aware that Dan told Memphis, Renny, and Keesha that he doesn't need to honor the POV promise to Ollie? That he is perfectly willing to put Michelle up as a replacement nominee? That it's ok if Renny wants to take the Colonel off and Dan would put Michelle in his place?

Dan is playing poker. But I'm thinking he just might be going in the right direction with this. And I think he got Keesha and Renny in an alliance with him and Memphis, although he did tell the girls that they could cut Memphis in final 4 or 5 if they want and they get the opportunity. He works people pretty well.

Didn't know Renny won HOH again! Dan, Dan please tell us DanFans your plans. Talk to us, the feeds are on and we are watching.

Drats- you may be right about the stop payment thing because I really dont remember saying anything about pot stirring. I guess I will have to go back and read my post. I will get back to you when I figure it out.

Drats- I think I just found it. Right below my post about being on pins and needles bbfanindallas said something about stirring the pot. Maybe you thought it was still my post. For a minute there you had me thinking I was crazy. By the way you are one of my favorite hamsters to.

Dee- what did kells say about me?

It seems to me that allowing Ollie to make one of the nominations/POV replacement helps to shed the America's Player "control element". America can't be making Dan's "decisions" if Ollie chooses the replacement.

I'm still debating here. I sure would like to hear, ClayPo, Gregor, Gray & BenF's take on this nomination. There is this fine line between genius & psychotic. Which side of the line is this man on? Gotta go read these posts again and see if I missed them somehow..

Wooohooo! This has to be the best move of the game so far. Hopefully neither Jerry nor Memphis wins POV, the noms stay the same and Memphis is evicted 4-0 or 3-1. Can you tell i'm excited? :-) Memphis can hit the road and take all of his sexy low cut 'blouses' with him! GAG!!!! lol

As a newbie to BB I rely on HD for her very informed opinions, so if HD says "Stupid, Stupid, Stupid" I'm sure it's based on watching the previous nine BB's with all it's nuances and subtlies. However, as uninformed as my opinion is, Dan's strategy seems good to me.

Renny has made it clear to Dan that she doesn't trust Memphis and therefore in a Jerry vs. Memphis or even an Ollie vs. Memphis, Renny votes to evict Memphis.

On the other hand, Michelle campaigned hard against Jerry last week and seems to have some kind of bond with Memphis (albeit a shaky one now). So maybe Dan's thinking I can't rely on Renny, but maybe Michelle would pick her semi-beloved Memphis over her hated Jerry.

I also think that Keesha isn't as close to Renny as everyone thinks as she seems to spend much more time with Dan and Memphis. Renny is the weak link in the Dan/Memphis/Keesha/Renny potential Final Four. If push comes to shove I think Keesha would stick with Dan and Memphis and evict Renny.

If Memphis survives and he or Keesha win the next HOH, I think Dan would be safe from the nominations and if Ollie or Michelle win, Dan at least has a fighting chance in the POV.

It looks like a very interesting week ahead.

From HD - This was my shortest post ever in the history of Silly Hamsters. I was just awestruck. So you saw history. LOL :)

What did he mean about stirring the pot, does anyone know?

No Kimberly, Kells didn't say anything about you. That's not how I meant those 2 sentences to be read. They were 2 contrasting statements. 2nd sentence was lighthearted jabbing about who you want to win, etc.

Kimberly: Are you Evel Dick in disguise? :)

DRATS: "Although, there are definite times I think somebody put a stop payment on your reality check." I haven't laughed this hard, well, at least so far today! I'm going to have to steal that line from you, you can bill me for the royalties!

As for the current topic: Well, either Dan is one of the smartest puppet masters ever to reside in the BB house, or he's going to be toast on Thursday. If what I think is his current plan works and he is able to backdoor either Michelle or Ollie this week, and make it through Thursday's fast-forward, I will go so far as to say he's starting to rival James Rhine and Dr. Will for best HG ever! I want to see the smirks come off the faces of Ollie and Michelle! Go Dan!

Hey guys, boy am I 180 degrees away from the general consensus reaction here. Two weeks ago everyone was bellyaching that no one was thinking for themselves. Now people are pissed that somebody is thinking independently and wildly outside the box. You want and expect Dan to do what the house consensus wants and expects him to do. Ick.

I know I don't need to remind you that Big Brother is a game, but for me a game is terribly more exciting when the odds aren't stacked in one person's or side's favor. Who wants to play Scrabble when they pick all vowels or all consonants and can't make a move? What excitement is there when one football team scores all the touchdowns? And I already know there's $500,000 at stake here, but guess what -- only 7 people are eligible to win that, and you aren't one of them.

I am freaking excited to see how this is going to play out. And I think deep down inside you all are too. Come on... admit it. Admit it! :)

Maybe Dan is an idiot. Maybe he's not. We've already seen that what has happened in this house has been far more layered than most seasons of BB and Dan has just added a few more layers to it. And remember, Renny wants Memphis out of the house at all costs, so if Memphis goes, then that is on Renny, not on Dan.

If Memphis goes, Ollie, Jerry and Michelle will need Dan for at least one more week. If Jerry goes, Keesha, Memphis and Renny will need Dan for at least one more week. Sorry but I don't see how Dan loses with that.

But no matter what happens, stay or go, Memphis can leave this hosue, and Dan, Renny, or Keesha can still win it.

And you know what, maybe I'm sounding preachy, and maybe my logic is skewed. But I don't care. I'm thinking independently and wildly outside the box.

Outside the box of cornflakes!! Just kidding BenF:). You do make some good points in your comments. Most of us just think it would have been smarter for Dan not to make the deal with loser Ollie that he did, but it may work out for him, we will see. Keep thinking outside of that box BenF.

Drats... (Although, there are definite times I think somebody put a stop payment on your reality check.) Made me LOL. Wish I'd said that!

I know Dan has a plan (been watching the feeds), but it is one so outlandish, if it works he'll be back for All-Stars 2.

BenF, I agree with you...the game is getting interesting. Dan is one of my favorites and I love what he is doing..He never quite answers the questions he gets and turns them around so that the hamsters think they are getting the answer they want...everyone/anyone follow that??

The way I see it, Dan was afraid he couldn't hold on much longer in the HOH comp. Ollie was not terribly interested in making a deal, he just wanted to gut it out and see who hung on the longest. So instead of just quietly dropping, Dan did all he could think to do to get Ollie to drop first, and he'd deal with the consequenses later. Dan thought his way through everything I think when he made the deal. Ollie was stubborn, and so was Dan. Hopefully this week will take the smirks off Ollie/Michelles faces, and one of them will be gone.

Incurably Optimistic Hamsterlings,

Very well. The DRATS-ter will concede that it is possible that Danny Boy has something hidden up the sleeve of that oft-worn red shirt of his, and it is conceivable that this is all part of some mysterious master-plan.

(Gods, I hope that's the case. I hate to think I completely missed the mark and the lad really is this daft.)

A veto coup detat?

My concern is that our young would-be hero would be basing the implementation of this mysterious plan of a his, on either a trusted ally or himself winning the veto competition and then subsequently using it to place the real target in front of the gun. Seems like an awfully big maybe to base a plan on at this stage of the game.

Could it be that he actually wants to see Memphis go? Okay... I suppose it's feasible, but why?

Granted, thus far Memphis has proven about as useful as a mint flavoured suppository, but all the more reason to keep him around to take to the end.

Could it be that Dan is going to try to pull an "Iron Man" assault on the final prize? (No kids, I don't mean like the Marvel super-hero.)

One thing that we sometimes tend to forget is that Big Brother is a game that can be won without any alliances whatsoever. If a player were indeed able to win every available competition, (every available HOH that the player qualifies for, and every Veto competition) it would in fact guarantee their placement in the final two. At that point the Jury not awarding the prize to such a player would require a level of almost unfathomable indifference.

Clearly such a path to victory would be the stuff of legends, but I really can't imagine anyone but Jessie having the level of narcissism required to consciously undertake it as a strategy.

Hmmm... Well my friends, I am at a loss. But take heart, God could still use Dan for miracle practice.

Cautiously Pessimistic,

DRATS

I think this game may be getting to me finally. Can hardly believe this old, tree-hugging, liberal broad is actually pulling for such a right wing conservative, one I was prepared to detest because of his political statements...Must be getting dotty in my old age!!

Ollie's doing a lot of that "smirking" tonight. He and Manchelle have already told Jerry if they win the POV they're going to take Jerry off the block so Dan will have to put up Keesha or Renny. (because Ollie gets to choose per Dan/Ollie agreement). Can they be that stupid! I'm pullin' for Manchelle to win POV, take Jerry off the block, so Ollie can go to the jury house and screw April's brains out in private for the next 4 weeks... but I digress...

Dan's already told Keesha/Renny/Memphis he will put up whomever does not win the POV out of Ollie/Manchelle. There will be some hell-raisin' after the POV ceremony this week.

Dan, you are the man!

Dee, the way I see it, Ollie and Dan have both been playing possum about their endurance abilites and being able to win contests. But this was the week they both needed to strike. Seriously, I think Dan has a lot more mental prowess than he's being given credit for, and I wouldn't be surprised if he fully expected Ollie to come alive last night, and had already thought through the whole deal scenario in his head before the HOH contest even began.

Of course I'm the fellow who tried to convince you all that Jessie was, at heart, a good kid.

Dee- I am sorry I misunderstood.

Thanks BenF & DRATS. I'm trying to look at both sides of the coin. This is a high stakes poker game Dan is playin.
Listening to Jerry, Michelle and Ollie, Dan has pretty much called their behavior. I question Michelle as she was/is tight with Memphis? The three of them are ready to pull Jerry off right now which will make for a great move on Dans part.
I'm lovin' this game, but makes me nervous...
Where are ya Gregor, ClayPo and Gray?? Need somemore input!
By the way, anyone think Ollie will be doing Michelle? Shes been looking for a showmance!!

I think Dan is a genius. Seriously... Ollie and Manchelle say that if they win the veto, they will take off Jerry. And if Dan, Memphis, Renny or Keesha win the veto, presumably they will use it on Memphis. It would take some convincing with Renny, but I think that she MIGHT bend to her alliance if necessary. Nevertheless, I doubt she'd win anyway.

All the same, five out of six times, it's apparent that the people want to use the veto. Then Dan, as he has directly stated, will backdoor Manny or Ollie.

Dan... you are the man.

No problem, Kimberly. I am the one who should be sorry about ribbing you...I'm not, but I should be. :-)

BenF, you're right, Dan probably did have the HOH comp possibilities figured out ahead of time. While he was shivering recovering from the comp, he looked like he was already running through the possibilities in his head from his victory.

Tonight Ollie was trying to take over his "alliance" with J/MI, thinking he was impressing everyone with this "brilliant" strategies, and Jerry flat shot him down. O/Mi promised Jerry they'd use the POV on him, and Jerry said...Wo, Nellie...if you take me down, he very well might put you up. Jerry could not believe how simple minded and naive the strategies were. At the suggestion that Dan may not honor his promises, Ollie said that if he didn't, he would "kill" him. Hmmmmm... brilliant thing to say on national TV, Ollie.

One last thing... I would never have the balls to do what Dan did today. I really respect him for doing it. Dan's a football coach. And a good football coach understands strategy and has the balls to take some risks that could turn out to be unpopular or glorious. I think Danny Boy is just bein' true to himself.

I have to go wake up my dog now. She's having another one of her Fourhead nightmares.

Kimberly,

My sincerest apologies Snook'ems. (Sorry, starting to scrape the bottom of the "Cutesy Terms-O Endearment" barrel.) ;)

Apparently, the only one doing any stirring of pots is bbfanindallas. (And I still haven't the first flippen' clue for whom the comment was intended.)

This is why Daddy drinks,

DRATS

P.S. Have you picked up a copy of Jonathan Livingston Seagull yet? It's a brilliant book and I know you of all people will appreciate it.

It seems to me that allowing Ollie to make one of the nominations/POV replacement helps to shed the America's Player "control element". America can't be making Dan's "decisions" if Ollie chooses the replacement.

At the start of BBAD I had a strong urge to smack Michelle, she seemed so irritating. I hope she gets put up as a replacement. She is worse than Jerry.
The comments on this site are wonderful.

In response to LaLa.

I found a small flaw in your logic regarding Dan letting Ollie choose the nominationsto detract the whole "America's player".

Dan could have easily used that excuse to break his word and put up Ollie and Michelle. He could have hid behind that very easily. He could have sad after "thinking about it", he had to do this in his best interest.

But I digress.

I again agree with Drats that this is a risky move. At worst, he rids the house of the old man. At best, he backdoors Michelle and gets another strong player out. The other option if Michelle wins is he gets the other half of the gruesome two-some out.

Listening to MOJ tonight is making me sick. I think I just threw up in my mouth a little. Speaking of being cocky, they are acting like they won. If this was Dan's plan all along, he has risen to new heights in game-play.

Good luck, Dan. You will need it.

What an idiot!

After thinking about it, this may not at all be a bad move by Dan. Memphis is trying to be Will 2.0, throw everything, fly under the radar, let everyone else do the dirty work, collect $500,000. This used to be an original strategy, but it's been done to death already. He might think everyone will just vote out Jerry. BUT-who better to take to the finals, someone nobody likes or respects, and the FIRST one out every endurance comp?? Dan's even said before his alliance with Memphis has no benefit to him, since he refuses to win anything. AND if Memphis is voted out his #1 competitior is gone. I think he's safe with Ollie and Michelle since he kept his word with them either case, and Renny, too, especially if Memphis goes home. The only problem might be Keesha, but I think she's still after Michelle. Dan's in it to win it, I think.

HD--your site is great, even if you might not agree with my theories!

OK diff, remember you asked for this ;)

First off, I think we all knew that Jerry would be one of the two that Dan put up. What surprised the heck outta me was why in the world would he put Memphis up against the temper fidelis.

Watching the feeds now I am amazed to see that Memphis seems to be cool with it. Renny is certainly happy as a mud puppy in the low tide muck. Keesha of course is cool with it because her ass isn't on the block and probably won't be.

But the other three are scheming up a storm, with Oliver Wendell Holmes,.Jr. preaching on about the "clear and present danger" that Dan is. Ole Oliver really thinks he is in control and that he and Michelle are safe.

Good lord, Jerry was just asked how many different races there are and he said five. When pressed to name the five he says, "Caucasian, Asian and then there's black, brown and red."

WOW Renny also said there was "Caucasian and Negroid", which got Ollie and Keesha laughing their asses off.

Are these people for real?

the final prize is what dan playing for. the best scenerio would be to back door Keesha. Why? Because if he makes final 2 with any of the others he has a better chance for votes from the evictees. If he looking that far the road, keeping A/O, Libra, Michelle on his side come vote time. A final 2 with Renny may be his only problem, final 2 with anyone else its in the bag. count the votes.

OK, I was right there with HD, you could have knocked me over with the proverbial feather...but, I have been thinking a lot about this. DRATS, you stated you think Dan Petered out. He may be in over his head, but he's a smart guy. I think he spent the entire HOH competition thinking about all his possible moves and shifted his thinking once people started dropping off. Making a deal with Ollie could guarantee him some safety if he were ever to win an HOH (based on past performance, this one might have been his only shot). Clearly he wants Michelle to feel safe, which leads me to believe he may be planning a back door scenario or if that doesn't pan out, she's a good candidate to win another HOH, which could secure him another week if she won. Unfortunately, Michelle's unstable nature makes her change her mind which ever way the wind blows; her paranoia is worse than Memphis'. The reason I think Dan had this all figured out was because right after the HOH competition, he said to Memphis, "Look, I think I made kind of a shitty deal and we'll have to talk about it later." This way, he takes Memphis into his confidence, then Memphis thinks he made a tactical error, and by putting him up next to Jerry, make Memphis feel safe, while not completely blaming Dan for the lack of foresight. He seems to be mitigating errors, which could work for him if everyone weren't already suspicious of him...its a very risky move, especially since Renny would be on the fence about voting Memphis over Jerry.

The problem with this plan is that if he does backdoor Michelle or Ollie, he'll have betrayed them, and then with them, April and Jerry (assuming he doesn't make final 2) voting against him, he can't win final 2...Dan's building a big 'anti-Dan' voting block if he does backstab Ollie/Michelle.

Dan's deal with Ollie up on the jungle vines has got to be the all time dumbest I have ever heard in the BB house. I agree, he might as well of just given the HOH to Ollie. Who saves someone and their ali as well as letting him pick who to replace if the POV is used? I keep rolling over in my mind what Dan is thinking. His intention all along was to put Memphis up to force him to show whether he had an alliance with Michelle or not. Bad move. If Jerry wins POV and Dan sticks to his WORD with Ollie that only leaves Keesha and Renny to be targeted by Ollie. If Dan breaks his other half of the deal with Ollie he will put Michelle up and is counting on Keesha and Renny to vote her out and he will be the tie breaker assuming Jerry and Ollie will vote Memphis out. Dan is hoping that if Jerry does not win, Keesha and Renny vote out Jerry and he will be the tie breaker. If Memphis wins POV same thing, Michelle will go up if Dan breaks his word and she will be voted out. It just would have been easier to put Ollie and Michelle up for the love of God! One of them would go! Dan already made a deal with Memphis for final two and shook on it. Why is he so weird about Memphis now. Wonder what Keesha and Renny would think about that? If I were Memphis I would be HOT about this and I definitely would change my strategy and final two deal with Dan once I am safe and off the block. That was pretty shitty of Dan putting Memphis at risk like that. Memphis knows he is not a favorite of Renny and she is a risky vote. Dan did the very thing he was appalled at Renny for wanting to do last week! ugghhh!

I like Memphis. So does everybody. Nobody ever thought to get rid of him. That is exactly why he has to go. Everyone in this house is playing defense. Finally, Dan has the guts to play offense. Now is the good part.

does anyone remember the deal that Kaysar cut in the cage? how'd that one turn out, Ollie?

That video is hilarious !!! That took a lot of time to compile and I appreciate all of their hard work.

Now I am going to go re-watch it because I missed some scenes because I was laughing so hard !

Also thanks for everyone explaining the veto and Dan getting to break the tie. I was upset at 1st but I think Dan is using his skills as a football coach to let Ollie THINK he has the upper hand but Dan gets to break the tie vote if it comes down to that.

I am hoping that Renny wins the POV and the noms just stay the same and then bye bye Jerry finally.

Dan and Memphis have the only 'named' alliance in the house - the renegades.

According to the casting director on house calls the other day, Dan has been auditioning for BB for at least several years and she's wanted him as a hamster so finally found a good cast/fit/theme for him this time around. So he's a HUGE BB watcher and fan.

He's got something up his sleeve!!! Perhaps Memphis is in cahoots with the whole plan. Should be a good week and double eviction makes the cherry on top.

SuZieQ-
I totally agree with you about Dan and his politics. Right frm his interview I hated him because of his arrogance and his dismissal of Hillary but he's grown on me in this game. I want him to win it all now.

Mike-
It really doesn't matter how many people Dan pisses off. History has shown that at the end the Jury tends to vote for the best player and usually lays their hurt feelings to the side. People tend to start thinking more logically once they get into Jury because the pressure is a lot less. Dan is betting on that happening once again.

I think Dan has a brilliant plan and I just hope it works. It would be nice if that loose canon Renny was gone because she could screw it up with her liking both Ollie and Michelle. Hopefully she's having one of her more lucid weeks!

Ok, im a little confused about what Dan agreed to with Ollie so maybe someone can help straighten me out.

Did Dan make a promise to honor both Ollie's nom and pov nom should the pov be used?

I first read that ollie could pick pov replacement but have since read that this was a rumor and I saw Ollie tell Dan to put Memphis up as one of his nom choices.

Now I am reading that Dan has given Ollie both nom and pov replacement nom...as well as keeping both ollie and michelle off the block.

What exactly did Dan agree to with Ollie?

Anyone?

O YE OF LITTLE FAITH....why do you so called "LOYAL" dan fans give up so quick, you tryin to be like minute man ollie?? give dan a chance...he knows what he is doing...he just has to get the rest of his team on board....lol...still and always rootin for dan!!!

i loved the video. get goose bumps when i play it. i especially love the rage over music over memphis' bleeped out Fbombs!
so what if memphis is a hustler. even better in fact. thanks for the info! james BB9 is a porn star/hustler and i loved him too last season. i'm not gonna marry the guy or let my daughter date him. it's a game and if he can hustle his way to the end. good for him! he deserves the win....car and all.
if he leaves this week so be it. i have lost brian, steven and angie...i'll recover from memphis. would be nice to have one of my picks win it though. :)))

I'm with you Collen with 2 ls, how is the POV agreement to work. Please someone help us out here. I would appreciate it. Also, did Dan allow Ollie to choose Memphis to go on the block. Thanks.

agent 99 - apparently you don't have to be a huge fan of BB to audition for it for several years. In his pre-show interview he indicated that he hasn't followed all edpisodes or seasons. He has declared that he "doesn't want his students to think less of him" and he's worried about disgracing the church and getting fired from his job. So, I'm more inclined to think that the talk about going back on his word is just that - - talk. And that when push comes to shove, he'll keep it.

I was shocked to see Memphis go up because I thought that Dan thought that they had a "thing" going. But we all know that Memphis has a "thing" going with Keesha and also with Michelle. So why is putting Memphis up - pawn or otherwise - a bad move for Dan? By playing everyone, Memphis has proven he can't be trusted.

Certainly he figured that by having Ollie tell Michelle that she's "safe," that Michelle should share that with Memphis and it should get back to Dan. When it doesn't get back to Dan, he's justified in worrying that the Memphis / Michelle alliance is stronger than the Memphis / Dan alliance.

So - - it's not the worst move ever, if Memphis really didn't have Dan's back, anyway. Maybe it's the most astute move, ever?

Ha ha ha, I have been following HD's blog and commenting here for years, although not so much this year, but what a cast of commenters there are this season! Very interesting. All these side conversations are distracting. But, on to the real characters...
I wonder why kind of POV it will be? Who can digest the most disgusting items? Who will be distracted by luxury items? Or, how bad do you want it, with a loss of food, water, hair, companionship? Wasn't it Daniele who had to go in a room like a prison cell? THAT was funny!
I am so glad Ollie isn't playing.

OMG!!!..wtf is going on in that house...America's player or America's biggest Douche.. Dan's luck is about to run out..he best watch his back now!!

The POV agreement between Dan and Ollie was if the POV was used by anyone, Ollie would be able to pick who would go up as the replacement nominee. After the comp, Dan asked Ollie not to tell anyone yet, and he would do the same. In actuality, both Ollie and Dan have told their teams about the POV agreement. Dan has told his team (Me/K/R) that he is not going to honor the POV agreement if someone uses the POV. If someone uses POV, Dan is going to put Michelle up and backdoor her. If she wins and uses POV, he's going to put Ollie up. He means it. Dan has secured Renny and Keesha's votes to keep Memphis in.

Dan wants his team to use the POV so he can backdoor Michelle or Ollie. Dan told Memphis that he will take him off if he wins POV. If POV is not used, Dan wants Jerry to go home, would expect a 2-2 vote, and would break the tie to send Jerry home. He would break any 2-2 vote by sending O/Mi/J home.

We would have to wait until Monday for the POV ceremony I believe.

Hey, my video was posted here sweet!

From HD - Thanks for the video!