I felt like this episode was very much edited not only for content but for reality. It made Alex come off much creepier than he really was. It completely bypassed the oral sessions of Natalie. Amanda seems to be set up as a heroine in all this when the whole house almost killed her the other day. I am interested to see where they go from here.

HD

I am getting so tired of Jen bashing. Parker acted like a wimp and could move the wheel if his life depended on it.

CBS didn't show any of the hateful things Alison has said and done. Pooor bitch!
Alison has been acting like a BITCH all day and the show tonight hid all of her evil doings this past week.

I've had the feeds on 24/7 so watching the much edited CBS tidbits kind of is a waist my time. Maybe starting tomorrow when CBS catches up to current week's activities the show will be a little interesting.

I like Jen but when she goes and the HG's keep Alison all hell will begin and the Hg's will have to lie in the bed they made!

I have to agree with you. BIG YAWN on the Pov!

I am truly struggling to find a favorite in the house!! My favorites "were" Jen and Parker, Ryan and Allison and James and Chelsia... however, I am just not certain any longer! I think it was smart for Nat and Matt to NOT use the POV.... but in a way, I wish they would have, one way or another! I think Allison and Sheila have taken their charade too far, and it might just bite them in the back!!

As of right now, I like Chelsia and James (okay he's crazy but...) I do like Matt and Nat, but poor Nat does need to open her eyes...

I truly hope some personalities emerge a little farther down the line....

I really thing that Jen and Parker should pack their bags and just hope for a twist that may bring them back...

PS.... If I was in the house with my husband... I just do NOT think I could go against him in any way, if he was the better choice.. I would try to help him play on.... just my opinion...

Where to start. I thought Sunday's show was kind of lame and some of teh stuff left out tonight could have been used then. Sharon's return was not as graceful as shown, there was some tension for two or three hours after she came back in. They skipped the Amanda drama when she accused Chel/James of being brother/sister and the fall out from that. I think they did the Ryan/Jen sex thing well as to add humour to it becuase my frist reaction was to laugh at it. I think they got the message across without having to air the audio and show inside the water closet. Glad they included Parker's comment about having to sleep beside her "funky ass" later that night, still makes me laugh. I have trouble seeing how they can edit the Matt/Nat sex favours for TV although the producers must be kiiling themselves that they can't show that creepy grin Matt had on his face looking at the camera when turning away from Nat.

I thought there was too much Alex/Amanda. I wonder if this is story line development for her touching accusations? I am also interested to see how they edit the Chel/Josh/Amanda blow up. I suspect they will be driving the angle that we should feel sorry for her, boo hoo, she needed to be called out even if Chel/Josh did cross a line in getting carried away with their verbal assault.

Poor Ryan he has to live with Jen, did you hear her screaming at Parker. Ryan that is what you have to look forward to,lol. I picked up on that lying flat thing too HD.

Things will get better once they catch up now with the live eviction. The shows have been way too far behind thus far for the rest of us people following the happenings on line.

So, Sharon and Jacob were sequestered. Given that a) the show is supposed to last the normal duration and b) they are kicking out people at twice the rate, I suppose this means that several of the contestants will be back in the house at some point?

From HD - Sharon and Jacob had been sequestered because the show that they were evicted in hadn't been aired yet.

Is tomorrow food competition, eviction AND HOH? How will they fit in any of the Amanda drama in that line-up?

From HD - Tomorrow will be eviction and HOH. On Thursday, they'll have their first food competition (covered on Sunday's show).

I didn't watch all of tonight's show. It was a bit boring so I surfed away during comercial and wasn't in any hurry to surf back. It's almost easier to just come and read the show than watch it at times.
However, I did find myself giggling at Jen tonight. She's ready not only to throw Ryan under a bus but to drive it right on over him. I loved the comment that if she wins Veto she will just have to vote out her BF and doesn't that just suck. Hey Jen - if you had won and used the veto on your team another team would be put up. That means you don't have to vote out Ryan. But it sounds like you sure want to.

HD I think seclusion might be more than just the fact that their show hasn't yet aired, I think at some point people will be returning to the show. Not necessarily as their original pair. Perhaps Hamsters will even earn the right to pick a new partner from the pool of evictees. I think that could be very interesting to watch.

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HD, have you noticed that xx2000xx and The RealDeal2006 have been suspended from YouTube? I'm absolutely screaming at this. What did they show? A bunch of moaning and groaning? Why didn't Youtube just remove the Jen/Ryan audio (it wasn't a video afterall) and leave all their other videos on the site. I had so many favorites that I would watch from both of these two. UGH!

you know, all in all HD, it wasn't a horrible show. after all, it was a lot of days and info to throw together for one show...which answers your last question....yes, the time between weds and suns is wayyyy too long.
i too was mad at cbs too... but for different reasons. why not proclaim matt as the human pig that he is and nat as the stripper pole slut she is with a shot of them doing their dirty deeds? don't get me wrong, i loved exposing jenn/ryan's midnight tryst! i think it is only fair that matt/nat get called out on theirs...why should their parents get to sleep at night ?
i think they spent way too much time on the love triangle with alex amanda and parker....lets face it, parker just wants to get laid! his momma would never allow him to bring home amanda...no way! can you just see amanda a family gatherings with parker? her voice? no way. it won't fly! these three have very little game going for them they are so caught up in the soulmate theme...oh and parker getting screwed...not that kind of screwed, the fact that jenn is his partner screwed!!
okay, again ...why are alli and "ma" still pretending to be lesbians? how on earth is this going to benefit them...and their partners? do the partners know?, because "they are their teammates!" this is crazy. crazy! i tell you. i am sooo sick of ma and alli in the bathroom whispering, stroking each others egos, and their fake BBF friendship i could puke!!!! them telling each other "you are the best player and your gonna win ..blah blah blah! i think the cameramen spend way too much time on these two and i have had it!!! i literally turn the volume down when i see/hear them now.
the veto comp may not have been very exciting but it looked to be a very tough one for them. endurance for sure! that being said...eh, i've seen worse.
parker, parker, parker....please take your toys and go home!!! parker will have to do a complete 360 for me to like him again. dude has no game (telling his bros about jenn). unless you call flipping the bird to every camera, dropping the Fbomb every other word in disgust at your "unfair position"... part of your game play. i did see a more contained parker this week. he must really be building it up inside. on that note, does anyone else think parker looks like he is on drugs?...or half asleep...or something?

I've been sitting on this for some time waiting for this post-veto thread. I can see why everyone wants Jen/Parker out but strategically it wouldn't be the smartest move. And none of the house guests have enough brain cells firing (according to all the drug use and alcohol they have done) to put one lick of any kind of strategy into this game.

Ryan/Allison have to leave. Ryan is the nice guy in the house. If it were you and Ryan on the block the majority of the house would go with him so he's got to leave. With him gone Jen will bury herself. She'll be a train wreck with out him there to pail her out. And Parker will create so much drama that it will surely undo any targets that others may have. With Allison gone Sheila will go nuts. She can't stand Adam and with her fake lesbian BFF gone she'll manage to win a total of 0 competitions this entire season. You are targeting the two couples for each having an advantage but why not kill two birds with one stone and get out the other "couple" of Allison and Sheila. It's obvious they wouldn't vote for anybody other than each other if you were placed on the block with one of them.

I really think that CBS should add a Friday show. This season has too much drama for just 3 nights. Even better, they should do it like they do in other countries, and just show it every night. There's enough drama for it to work this season. I'm glad they made sure house guests had loads of personality this year. Last season wasn't cast that well at all.

That said, I would rather see Ryan/Allison evicted this week. Jen and Parker are more fun to watch! Allison plays dirty. Did you notice the other day how thoroughly she ran Jen under the bus the other day with Amanda? She moved the argument against Amanda into the house against Jen. Allison is more dangerous to leave in the house for most of the houseguests. Adam and Sheila are really wild cards, except when it comes to Allison. Allison and Sheila start too much stuff.

DocF, I agree with the way your thinking about who should be voted out this week and why the house is making a mistake. However, it is hard to strategize and lay down plans when you have people in the house that play emotionally and can blow things up with great drama. Parker and Jen both do this, Parker with his blow ups and tantrums and Jen with her running her mouth. I think for the other people a little more calm in the house right now is what they are after so solid alliances can be worked out.

I think I am finnaly getting into this show. The whole house seems to be really paranoid (more than usual if you ask me). Its wierd the way they have this game set up alliances seem like there going to be impossible to have exept with there partner and all of them seem to not want to be with there partner (with a few exeptions. And yeah whats up with that lesbian alliance? I mean Allison is on the block because her partner had a "secret" and now she says she does too? What a better way to get rid of 2 real life couples than to get rid of Allison and Ryan. Which I hope happens just because Parker is funner to watch. And boy that bike rider dude (Adam?) fell for the lesbian thing hook line and sinker

I loved the fact that James has unequivocally determined that because there are four colors in the toy in the hamster cage, there must be four couples who came into the house already knowing one another. With that brain power, we ought to be able to solve world hunger AND global warming. . . LOL! These folks need to stop focusing on other possible twists and potential booty calls, and focus on building some relationships that will keep them in the game!

I was tempted to turn off the show I was so bored, but I didn't. Of all the hamsters in this house, not one of them has a personality worth watching, but still I continue to do so.

I don't have the live feeds (only AD) so I don't know what you all know about Allison being a bitch. She seems okay to me (very pretty too).

Amanda, dear Amanda...this girl is all about drama. If she can't find it, she'll make it (I'm referring to the boring AD show she and Josh put on. She was so proud of herself for their little skit that lasted 1 minute, but talked about it forever, like it was the best thing that happened so far. Get over yourself, Mandy.

So, all in all, I don't have a fav. I am hoping to see Jen and Parker go tonight. I want to see how Ryan handles himself not having his "mom" and protector around. After all, he only went in there to be close to Jen. Parker offers nothing to this show and it would be nice to see him smile once in awhile. Maybe if he gets some sex, which he desperately wants from someone, we'll see a grin.

Double yawn for me. So far, the worst cast casted in BB history, IMO. Will it get better? Time will tell.

BB9 DID start off a little slow, but OMG Im digging it now! It is SO much more interesting to watch AD too, because last time it was HOURS of NOTHING. ha! Watching Danielle pick her teeth, and Jen check herself out.... I agree with BBFANTO about the HGs being way more paranoid than in previous seasons tho. WOW! The way these HGs react to situations and comments crack me up! Parker and Amanda are the WORST at flying off the handle.

All in all..yeah, I'll be watching. BB became my "crack" a loooong time ago on BB3. Oh, and to those ppl that are complaining about some of the ladies' "skank" behaviour..WHY DO YOU THINK THEY WERE CAST??! haha! No one wants to watch a house full of nuns! lol

Happy watching everyone! :)

Show was okay. Hoping for more of the Natalie porn show though. She came off looking pretty good to TV watchers.
Amanda didn't get what she deserved, outed for being the lying, pot stirring, PIA she is.

Too much waffling going on. I would have bet my ovaries on Jen & Parker going home. Not sure now. Don't care what would be best for the house, Jen needs out! The shit she brought down on her own bf with this race stuff is terrible. She needs to go before his own momma won't speak to him. She has made her own family proud huh???
Looking forward to a live show and seeing things finally up to date.

I just realized where Id seen Shelia from. She was on Scott Baio. Sorry If you had already posted this. If you havent they have a clip on bb9dish and VH1.

From HD - Yeah, that's been known about Sheila since the hamsters were announced. Thanks though! :)

So, I thought Parker was on DR Strike. We sure heard quite a bit from him on Tuesday nights show. When did he start talking in the DR? Or is he just lying to the HGs and has been talking in the DR this whole time?

And by the way, HD - great job with the updates! You are the first place I go each morning, noon and night hoping for an update even I have been watching live feeds! Keep up the great work. Thank you.

From HD - Thanks! :)

I think tonights show pretty much solidified that the actual show is going to deal with the soulmates twist as much as possible. That is the easy thing to piggyback on. Nothing about this season is organic with a story building from the natural chemistry of the hamsters. Lazy work producers and one of the reasons this season is lagging for me.

I expected the P.A.A. triangle to be a focal point but never expected the lez alliance to be so much of a backburner story but it is a spark that can definitely become an explosion especially with how paranoid these people can get and run with it, especially Amanda.

Speaking of Amanda if they don't do some good build up before the explosion between Amanda and the house, which probbaly will happen since you got things like the bubble bath party in the jacuzzi they will want to cover, I don't think the passive audience is really going to understand what really led to it. The ommision of Amanda' hasty blow up of James/Chelsia over them supposedly being siblings, practicly any dealing with anyone in the house besides Alex and Parker, etc have been wrongly passed over. They even had the momentum with James 4 couple theory to run with it now but didn't.

Enough about last nights show. Lets get to the nitty gritty about what tonight will be about. People being sent out of the house.

I have to agree with many that Ryan/Allison is a better move to remove from the house because at this point they do nothing to cause drama to take attention away from whatever activities a person maybe doing in the house. Sometimes it is best to have a distraction in the house. i don't see it happenign though.

Alex & Amanda made a mistake in putting up Parker and Jen. You already have a pretty secure 3 team alliance in place with Matt/Nat and Parker/Jen and away to get a 4th on your side for a little bit to help possibly get your agenda through the next week by really laying it on thick with the couple you decide is best to keep in the house from whoever ends up the 2 noms in the end. Risking at worst a tie with the votes but even that helps secure more trust with that 4th couple you save.

Instead they made the mistake of trying to win over the whole house by putting up Jen and Ryan' teams to eliminate the advantage the two had up on the house. They could have easily left that up to some other group in the house and kept a strong alliance intact.

Okay this post I think is running a bit long so lastly. Jen and Ryan could have prevented this whole thing by trying to get there 2 teams to work together in the first place. They likely tried to be greedy by trying to latch themselves in to different big alliances so they could have an idea what the whole house is thinking but instead got caught off guard because Parker got his character hurt because someone called him a snake. Turning it personal so early is one of the main reasons parker and Jen are likely to be the first by the house sent out the door.

DJK...are you serious about Allison being very pretty? None of the women in the house are very pretty. Some are OK looking, but Allison is certainly not one of them. The fact that she looks about 10 years older than she really is definitely is not helped by her completely annoying personality.

I swore off After Dark last week and the CBS show a few days ago, but I read all the comments here, and that has gotten me back in the mood to watch tonight. I can't believe how I am drawn back in like a moth to the flame. I will be rooting for Jen to go because she just grates on me--I cannot stand her. To me, she is this season's Danielle.

And I saw from one of the blogs that Natalie professes to "love Jesus" and reads the Bible all the time. I am wondering what church she goes to where it is considered OK to parade around naked on national television and blow guys she has just met? Maybe I have to go to Oregon to find a church like that?

DeathMetalDave, you can't believe that somebody thinks Allison is pretty? I think she is the best-looking woman in the house, by far, but you are completely right about the personality, not to mention her being two-faced and a bat-shit whack job. After she reaches Ma's age, she won't be pretty anymore, but she will still be nuts.

From HD - I think you may have just won the Silly Hamsters Commenter of the Day award! LMAO!!!

Laurie, you are right..Nat does need to open her eyes and at the same time CLOSE HER MOUTH..if you get what I mean..

She's not ugly at all, so I can concede that people would find her pretty, but very pretty? Jen is much prettier, but also totally annoying and apparently totally clueless (i.e. thinking it was a good idea to let everyone know her family doesn't like black people).

HD thought this might peek your interest.

http://www.nypost.com/seven/02202008/gossip/pagesix/more_boor_98414.htm

Sorry HD, the previous post I did not credit BB Couch Potatoes site for having that info.

DocF - Great reasons for keeping Jen/Parker and booting Allison/Ryan. But, as Calie44 pointed out - there isn't a lot of game playing going on; many of the players are still caught up in the soulmate twist and forgot about the "real" goal of the game.

Sandic - I'm with you: lets have a Friday night episode, too. The Friday night TV line-up, as it stands, is lame anyway.

I don't know how CBS is going to edit it, but they have to somehow show Nat as the s!*t she is. And Matt as the creep he is.

Unlike HD, I wasn't surprised / disappointed that more of the Jen / Ryan tryst didn't make TV. After all, if they are going to edit it away from Showtime After Dark, which is NOT a family show and is on cable, then I don't think we could ever expect more during primetime CBS.

BUT - - why not show Joshuah kissing Neil in the supply room? Yesterday Joshuah was claiming to be in love with a guy from back home (Jason?) So what was the kiss with Neil all about, and all the crying when he left? From the CBS edit, you'd think Neil's departure didn't phase him one bit.

Verity - I agree that they may bring some houseguests back in, this season. Either that, or they'll split up the pairs and have them play as singles at a particular point. The HG are complaining that no one has told them whether they will have to split the $500K with their soulmate. I'm guessing it's because by the time they get that far, they won't have soulmates anymore. We'll see, after this eviction and Housecalls interview, whether the HG return to the real world or stay in seclusion.

And c'mon? Shouldn't one of these national enquirer type news rags have figured out by now why Neil really left the house?

Allison IS, like HD compared the other day, Glenn Close in fatal attraction. She is really scheming to drive a wedge between Jen and Ryan and if she stays in the house, she'll use that time alone with him to do just that. More creep factor, to add to the Matt and Alex creepiness.

Briget - how bizarre was James' conclusion about four couples being in the house because of the hamster toy? Strange kid, that James.

Wump_Scot - I don't think that the producers planned for this much drama, this early on in the game. Yeah, they are spotlighting the "soulmate" stuff, but, honestly, many of the houseguests are still in the hook-up phase and seem to have forgotten strategy entirely. I think that they have so many different dramas to capsulize, that a lot is ending up on the editing room floor, regrettably. This is not a year to skip the feeds or showtime. I think that the "soulmate" twist, as silly as the guests have internalized it, has helped to accelerate the game, as each player is now accountable to another.

EVERYONE on BB is SOME form of a hypocrite. The fact that Natalie says she loves Jesus, then "parades around half naked on national television" is just another example. Its always there, every season. Ha! Who cares? I guess Im only defending her because I actually LIKE Natalie (and Chelsia) the most so far.. :) I don't give a CRAP how slutty these girls are, if it keeps them in the house and gets them closer to the 500,000 so be it. Anyway, besides Ma and Allison, ALL the women this go 'round are kinda skanky.

As for who's getting the boot tonight..I think its gonna be Ryan and Alli. The "lesbian secret" helped seal that deal. ~S

Alex is cute but that doesn't cloud my judgment on his behavior. He said straight out that if he couldn't be physical with Amanda they shouldn't be physical with anyone else. That's a laugh. Who is he? Did he think that because BB said they were soulmates Amanda would automatically love and want to have sex with him. Amanda is not a saint in this but she did say she just likes to cuddle and hug. She doesn't have to go any further if she doesn't want to. And in the same token she can go further with whomever she wants if she finds out she is more attracted to someone else later on down the line, a la Parker.
Parker will probably be gone tonight. Shoot I liked him. And I like Amanda big mouth and all. I really don't see her being different than anyone else in the house except she is not as smart at playing the stab you in the back BB game. She doesn't pick what she says and who she says it to.
There's no one I hate yet although the first days Sheila was heading there with her Adam comments. She hates racism but she doesn't mind being hurtful and bashing someone because they are not attractive to her. She has though, right now, redeemed herself. Wouldn't it be really funny if her and Adam are a real couple and all that drama was an act.
I have a feeling though if they keep Allison they are in for a bumpy ride. She seems to be really BB smart.

I agree with DeathMetalDave on Allison.

Ok...the show was heavily edited based on what I have read about what really happened on the feeds...oh well. I have a couple of "seperated at births" for you. First of all, when Adam was in diary room he had his face pointed down and his eyes up...he looked like the guy from Full Metal Jacket who goes pyscho and blows away the sarge and then himself.

Secondly, Ryan looks like the olympic wrestler Rulan Gardner if you know who that is.

Alex certaintly came off as a spoiled little bitch not getting his way and they definitely made him look pyscho lying in bed watching Amanda in the kitchen...gotta love the BB editing!

So far can't stand Jen and Parker and I am seriously hoping they get booted tonight...Parker thinks he is running the house...oops..guess not!

HD are you really the same HD as season 8 of BB?

There's something about you that's different. Anyway, like I've stated before, I watch the live feeds 24/7, watch BBAD and ofcourse CBS's tiny recap show. You can say I am a ADDICT.

Jen is my favorite hamster, she is NOT guilty of all the web gossip. People seem to believe what others say about her, in and out of the house. She NEVER said Ryan was a racist, but a racial issues of inter-racial dating. So do alot of African Americans and every other race in this world, unfortunitly,

Ryan has been a dick towards Jen and I hope she dumps that fat no personality jerk.

All-I-sin is not a 6 as Parker rated her, she a minus 10, both in looks and personailty.

Amanda needs a tranquilizer. How could she not be attractive to Alex? To me he's a double 10.

Sheila needs a psychiatrist not a publisher.

Give Josh a tampon (for his mouth). Last night he was worried about getting a yeast infection.

Tell James, Barnaby and Baily Circus is now playing in Nebraska and his train tickets are ready to be picked up.

And last comment (for now), HD what did our votes to keep the feeds on during the Live show day do? They've off all day, except for about 10 minutes.

Anyway hope we enjoy the show tonight and am looking forward to your live chat.

From HD - Yes, it's me! LOL