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Thursday, September 06, 2007
The Ogre
Well, things that make you go hmmmm.
No, I'm not talking about Jameka.
Zach is the new HOH.
It seems he beat Daniele by one point (59 to 58) in whatever kind of competition it was (see the screencap above for the setup). Dick isn't happy about it (keeps saying 'F**k and saying it couldn't have been any closer. Jameka is lost in thought in the living room. Daniele is deep in thought by herself on her bed. But wait, Big Brother has called a lockdown and Dick has to stop smoking. He joins/interrupts Daniele inside and they're going over the competition while Zach is in the Diary Room.
And now she's whining about why couldn't BB give them a minute longer. Gah. Dick's trying to keep her focused but she's still upset. Get over it already Daniele.
So what's Zachypoo going to do now? What do you want to happen? Who do you want to win the POV?
Posted by HamsterDame at September 6, 2007 09:10 PM
Comments
Wow, I hope Zack puts up D&D.
Posted by: planojudy at September 6, 2007 09:17 PM
well who is nominated...dani and jameka? i sometimes like dani but she complains tooo much whiniy little brat spoiled little brat... i hope zach wins this whole thing...i feel bad for jameka she seems like such a good person....however i do like ed.....bad person...although so honest....yeah dani needs to go just because she voted out nick.....i loved him...sorry sweetheart...but what goes around comes around.
From HD - If it goes like last season, nominations will be tomorrow.
Posted by: jennvs72 at September 6, 2007 09:17 PM
sorry not done yet...but she treats her father like total crap....all about meeeee meee meee meee!!!! whah whah whah let me feel a little sorrrier for myself....shut up dani and lets go home!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: jennvs72 at September 6, 2007 09:19 PM
I don't get why Daniele is so upset. Zach will probably nominate her and Jameka and just as long as Zach, Dick or Daniele (preferably D or D) then D and D will stay. Zach can't win against Jameka so he has to get her out.
Posted by: Matthew at September 6, 2007 09:20 PM
Dick or Dani have to win it!!!!! Im am for them 100% I'm worried that if they both don't go to the final 2 the vote will be made personal!
All though I am a huge Dani fan, QUIT WHINING AND GET YOUR HEAD IN THE GAME!!!! Im so over that already,
Posted by: Carly at September 6, 2007 09:21 PM
I am not sure what happened. When the live show went off, Dick was HOH and Eric was evicted. Was there another HOH contest after the live show went off the air. I thought they mentioned there would be one in a few days. Please clarify. Thanks.
From HD - Um, Eric was evicted on the live show tonight. Read my liveblogging post from tonight.
Posted by: Ronjj at September 6, 2007 09:23 PM
I want him to put up D & D and for Jameka to win the POV. That would really put a kink in all the plans. I am not sure that he is smart enough to handle this complicated game play though. He was not smart enough to use the veto tonight to get one of them out, so we will see what happens.
Posted by: LoLo at September 6, 2007 09:24 PM
Does it really even matter who he puts up? The power to decide who stays and goes is with the POV winner. I'm pulling for Jameka to get this POV. It's time for the Donatos to be split up.
Posted by: Psychodrew at September 6, 2007 09:26 PM
Dani is such a whiner. I am dislkinh her more and more with each passing day.
Zach seems to like Dani. Actually, He seems to have a crush on Dani.
I think he will nominate Dick/Jameka. Dick will most probably tell him to nominate him instead of her daughter.
Unless jameka wins PoV, it looks like she is going home as Zach knows that jameka is the most liked of the foor of them and Jameka will win if she reaches the F2.
I agree. If Jameka reaches the F2, she will win.
Jameka has really not done anything in the game to deserve to win. The only reason she is here in F4 is because of the 5 HoH thingy.
I hope Dick wins it because he has played a great game and is not a whiner like his daughter. That will not happen unless he reaches the F2 wilth his daughter.
If jameka reaches the F2, she WILL win.
Posted by: d00by at September 6, 2007 09:31 PM
Well, if Dick can talk Zach into it, it should be Zam and one of them, but they need to make sure that they keep her from winning POV. It may be best to have both up, and then win POV and backdoor Zam. Again, all depends on the fact that Zam has to be kept from winning the POV. (Dick should have an easy job as all he has to do is remind Zach nor anyone has a chance against Zam due to her LNC pals in the Seq house).
Posted by: David in KY at September 6, 2007 09:33 PM
It's time for Big Dick and Little Dick to go. I've had enough of Dani's (Little Dick) whining, so I hope Zach puts up the two of them and Jameka wins the POV and doesn't use it. I would love to see Zach and Jameka at the end. Zach knows he probably can't win the grand price no matter who he takes to the end. I just don't want D&D to make it to the finals.
Posted by: LauraLuvsBB at September 6, 2007 09:36 PM
If Zach has a brain inside his head and is playing to win, he will put up Daniele & Dick, and hope that he or Jameka wins POV and send Daniele home.
Then again though, Zach could always put up Daniele & Jameka, and just send Jameka home, but that would be the easy way out.
Either way, no one will take Zach to the Final 2. Dani would take Dick & vice versa, Jameka would take Dick, and Zach would take Dick. Essentially, ED is GUARANTEED at least $50,000 right now.
If Zach really wants to win this game, he'll put up the Donatos and hopefully send Daniele home. Even if it doesn't work out and Jameka goes home, there's absolutely no risk because strategically, the game is essentially over after nominations. If he sends home Daniele, it gives him a MUCH better chance of making the Final 2, and a MUCH better chance of him winning HOH at the Final 3 due to not having to worry about Daniele, who would almost definitely win the Final 3 HOH I believe.
Zach could always just take the easy way out & send home Jameka, but if he is trying to win the game, he NEEDS to send home Daniele. If he doesn't, he will NEED to win HOH at the 3 in order to make the Final 2, whereas if he can send home Daniele, he can get to the Final 2 with Dick winning, or himself winning.
If Zach is playing to win, which he should be, he will put up the Donatos. If he is playing not to piss off Dick and to be 'buddy buddy' for the next 12 days only to never talk to either of them again after the show, he will intend to send home Jameka.
Come on Zach, do the smart thing & put up the Donatos!
Honestly, I hate this Final Four, but if I had to pick someone I wanted to win, it would be Zach. As much as he gets ragged on, and as much as he is a moron in some ways, he hasn't been a whiny, spoiled brat like Daniele, he hasn't been an obnoxious jackass like ED, and he has done something in the game, even if it was kind of questionable, whereas Jameka has done NOTHING. Zach obviously threw several competitions as shown by his recent success. The POV tonight was complete and utter BS as he had a MASSIVE size advantage over everyone else (5 inches over the next tallest, a whole foot over the shortest, and a good 40lbs over the next lightest). But, he did win the HOH last week, and he did win HOH this week. He definitely can compete, he just didn't want to initially, which was a smart move on his part. He's played a much better game then I & many others have given him credit for. Now, if he grows a pair and puts up the Donatos, he will have played a very good game, even if he doesn't send either home, he will deserve to win, because he did play a solid enough game.
Another benefit of sending Daniele, or even Dick home, is that Jameka will not win HOH at the 3, guaranteed. Daniele & Dick very well could, and if I'm Zach(god, that's scary to even think about), I without a doubt put up the Donatos, hope that I or Jameka win POV, and then send one home. If it doesn't work out, no harm no foul, because it's the Final 3 and pissing off Dick & Dani makes no difference at this point.
Also, if he were responsible for sending one of the Donatos home, and faced the other one, it would get him Dustin, Amber, Jen, & Jessica's votes, and he would win the game.
Essentially, he's in an AWESOME position, if he's smart, he'll take advantage of it and try to win the game, instead of playing for 3rd.
Posted by: Kevin at September 6, 2007 09:37 PM
So has anyone thought about the fact that Jameka has a lot more friends in the Jury. Seems like a smart player would go after her and not Dick and Daniele who have no friends. The best case scenario would be for Zack to put up Daniele or Dick and Jameka, one of the three other than Jameka win the POV and not use it. Then on Tuesdays show Jameka is gone!
Posted by: Brittany at September 6, 2007 09:38 PM
The reason Dani is whining is what she told her dad, that she will have to be the one to go home.
What a loving daughter.
Zach will break the duo or deserve to lose. He may try to get rid of Jameka because he does not want her to win. He sees himself as a competitor now and he is winning.
Will Dani use her wiles, or backstab her dad, to be the one to stay? Will Zach realize that only one point away meant that Dani is his strongest competitor and after all(after he votes her off), "it is only a game"? Will Jameka campaign with Zach? Will Zach see that he can't win over Jameka with her cronies votes in the jury house? Will someone get rid of the poor loser, whineaholic Dani? Who is at this moment having a temper fit?
Hmmmm, how will this soap opera, errr game end?
Nominations? Jameka and Dani
Veto? Depends on whether Dani keeps on whining. Donato's all the way.
Posted by: Kay at September 6, 2007 09:38 PM
I don't want the Donatos to win. Dick has been a complete jackass, and is a totally disgusting human being. Danielle is a whiny little brat who has played this game through her dad, while being a complete bitch to him the whole time.
If Zach were smart, he'd put up Dick and Jameka, and then backdoor Danielle.
Posted by: David at September 6, 2007 09:41 PM
Wow! Great post Kevin! :)
Yeah, Zach is in an awesome position.
But, I am not sure if he has the brains to do this!
If he sends a Donato home, he will be a Hero in the Jury house! :D
Posted by: d00by at September 6, 2007 09:46 PM
Well, I'm happy for Zach. He is finally showing these hgs that he is a competitor and can win when he needs to. What is it now? HOH, POV, HOH...he's racking them up when needed.
I'm still a little disappointed from early when he didn't use the POV, hopefully now he crushes the dreams of the hg that is a threat to him winning :). Though, he seems to be in a better relationship with her then her father, so I doubt it.
I see him putting up Jameka and Dick.
Posted by: Nikki at September 6, 2007 09:51 PM
Definitely. Zach seems smart enough in terms of IQ and intelligence, so I'm hoping that he understands that he NEEDS to ditch one of the Donatos right now.
If he doesn't, it's just an absolutely moronic move that no one should ever defend.
Posted by: Kevin at September 6, 2007 09:52 PM
I don't mind if Dick wins, but Dani, not so much. She's too whiney and selfish, in the relationship with her father; it's always about her. Gawd...she needs a reality check. Also, if Jameka wins I'll start going to church hahahah
Posted by: Jase at September 6, 2007 09:55 PM
From day one Dick said he hates people talking behind each other's back and going back on deals. What has he done today?
Gone back on the Eric/Jessica deal and is now talking shit about both of them.
Dick patting himself on the back is pretty hard to watch.
Posted by: Sigma at September 6, 2007 09:56 PM
The last time Zach was HOH it seemed he took some time to contimplate his decision. D?D however seem to have a big influence over him and being in the game I do not think he see things as clearly as we do. I suspect Dick will fall on his sword and ask to be put up with Jameka. Zach likely will do this because he seems to have a soft spot for Daniele. Logic however should tell him to line up his cards with Jameka and be sure to get Daniele out of the house.
Posted by: BBFanTO at September 6, 2007 09:59 PM
Dani is 21, I have a 21 year old daughter and let me tell you I have run out of cheese this past year. It is just the way they are these days, I don't remember being like that at 21, but then again my parents would have beat my butt, when I was little so I wouldn't grow up to be that way. Then came I'm calling 911, enough said. Give to the girl she played the game.
Posted by: chris at September 6, 2007 10:05 PM
Time for Jameka to go...and then let the three of them "duke it out" for the finals. Zach certainly has come alive in the last few weeks.
It makes it a good race to the finish.
I'm hoping for a Dick and Zach finish!
Posted by: alaskanjody at September 6, 2007 10:19 PM
Great the same minute I send my last post turns out Zach won his spot in the final 3. He did it the best way he could and of course sounds like Daniele was close so does make me feel like my post in the other topic wasn't all for not.
Since Zach has always left an impression of being all about the bro's I think he will put the ladies up for eviction.
Then he needs to hope Jameka wins Veto so he can break them up with no blood on his hands. Though I don't see him trying to sway Jameka either way with her vote.
That's the scenario I hope for and I think Zach would be fine with it and will keep whatever integrity he has about the alliance and he will deal with whoever in the final H.O.H. comp. You have to believe he would prefer Daniele to go in that scenario though Dick has proven himself in both mental and physical challenges but not like Dani. Plus Dick is his best chance to actually win it all rather than settle for second like he seemed to think he can't get beyond.
I still think he was silly not to use the veto but happy he won H.O.H. rather than either D&D because it does truly keep the game interesting and I can keep watching the feeds.
So thanks Zach for making me eat my words a bit but if you win P.O.V. too and D&D are not both up I still have to question your game play.
Posted by: wump_scut at September 6, 2007 10:31 PM
There's no reason to plan on backdooring since they all get to compete for POV. I really hope Jameka wins the POV; I want Danielle out.
Posted by: Missy at September 6, 2007 10:44 PM
So what happens next? After this next eviction let's say Jameka goes home. Does that mean that the next HOH Zach can't compete in? If that is the case D or D will become HOH and automatically evict Zach. Am I correct?
From HD - After the next eviction, ALL of them can compete in the upcoming three-part HOH competition.
Posted by: Patrick at September 6, 2007 10:48 PM
Earlier this evening I was pronouncing Zach a dead Ogre walking. He missed a great opportunity to take out a strong player, Daniele, and move forward in this great game. But, just hours later, he's been given yet another opportunity. And so, the Ogre's diagnosis changes.
The only guarantee at this point is that Zach will not be the one to go home this week. Everyone else has plenty to worry about this week, and their worry will begin and end with the PoV. I think Zach should nominate Jameka and Dick. It's an obvious, safe nomination. But he should not make the nomination with any intention of seeing them through. He needs to be prepared for a Jameka PoV win, and he should hope for a Jameka PoV win--but he also should consider fighting for it himself and using it to get rid of one of those pesky Donatos.
I believe he needs a Donato to go home this week if he would like to get himself into the final two. But he shouldn't go about this by nominating them together. It is very possible, likely even, that one of them will win PoV, so there is no sense ruffling any feathers or betraying their alliance and losing a potential jury vote, until that Veto has been secured.
I think Zach would love to be sitting next to Dick in the finals. Get Dani out this week (but do it cautiously after the Veto has been secured), then win HoH next week (he can beat Dick and Jameka, in theory at least) and give Jameka the boot. If he makes these plays he will no longer be the dumb Orge. He will be a competition star (reason for a rational jury to give him their vote) and he will be better liked then his opponent. He'll be sitting pretty as the odds on favourite to win it all; thats sounds like a game well played to me.
Posted by: DavidJ at September 6, 2007 10:52 PM
Kevin, what makes you think Zach will take Dick? I think he will take Danielle because he is infatuated with her. He seems like a dork and really enjoys the attention he gets from the Donatos. Danielle will just flirt with him to get whatever she wants.
Posted by: BB8player at September 6, 2007 10:56 PM
YES!!
Zach is going to put up Dick & Daniele. He & Jameka are talking and Zach knows he has to do his best to get one out, and he told Jameka "You need to play your ass off for POV."
This is the best case scenario right now, let's hope that once he puts them up, noms stay the same, and Daniele goes home. I cannot stand her, and I will puke if she or her did wins.
Woohooooooo! Zach just became my 3rd favorite HG of the season.
Posted by: Kevin at September 6, 2007 10:58 PM
Greetings HD and fellow hamster addicts,
Hmm... What did the never-so-humble Drats say a week ago?
Oh Yes! I remember! I said that Zach's best bet was to ally w/ the Donatos. Why? Because they were the only two remaining in the house that he could be sitting next to and still nab the the Jury vote at end-game.
Of course the nay-sayers continued to make the case for Zach to form an alliance with the love-birds, but thankfully Zach wasn't that stupid.
Socially innept? Sure...
The house guest most qualified to get a job wearing the "Goofy" costume at Disneyworld? Absolutely...
Tom Hanks' and Fred Flinstone's love child? Quite Possibly...
But Stupid? I DON'T THINK SO.
He knew that sitting next to Jammers or Jess he didn't have a cold snowball's chance in hell. Eric? Slim at best... But either of the Donatos? SLAM DUNK.
Jameka needs to go. In fact at this point, the idea of an alliance w/ Jameka makes about as much sense as a screen door on a submarine.
SO... Now here we are a week later, and what a surprise! The Dratsab called it. Now Zach is in the position to walk away with it all.
It all comes down to the final Veto after next week's HOH.
Love and Hellfire,
Drats
P.S. As much as I'd like to see Dick win it all, the only way I see that happening is if he's sitting next to his crybaby bitch of a daughter at endgame. I doubt that's gonna happen, but whether it's Zach or Dick who takes the prize... Whether the Nice guy finishes first for a change or the Devil finally gets his due, either way I'm gonna be a very happy camper.
Posted by: dratsab at September 6, 2007 11:01 PM
Is it possible that Zach's game has gotten him exactly where he planned? Could he have been playing everyone all the time? Just get rid of Danielle..so tired of her "poor little me" when things don't go her way...she's becoming another Amber..just whines instead of crying tears everywhere...
Posted by: SuzieQ at September 6, 2007 11:18 PM
I finally got home and watched the show on the computer. As soon as I finished, I logged on to your page. Then I found out Zach won HOH! I could not be a happier camper right now. I could not have picked a better final 4. Everyone who annoyed me has left tonight. It doesn't really matter who Zach nominates. Unless Zach also wins the veto, the veto winner decides who goes home. I'm thrilled that Zach is in the final 3. I've been rooting for him since early on in the season. I like Jameka better than all the people in the jury house, so I'm glad she's still here, too. I like the Donatos, so I'm glad they are still here, as well. Finally, I'm starting to like this season after all!
Posted by: sandic at September 6, 2007 11:27 PM
hd hd hd hd hd hd!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
i AM SO UPSET WITH YOU!!!!!! I thought you were a fair person. Pls tell me how you could see Jem put the blue ball in her tube???? this is stated in your update I think at :37 or :38!!
If you look close at some of the therads on the CBS website DICK clearly is holding a blue ball!! WHY??????? Not saying he put it in there but it makes you wonder doesn't it??????
But CBS won't change it because I am in the camp that does belive that CBS need's Dand D till the end, and will do what ever it takes.
Thanks,
Frosty
From HD - Julie said that she was disqualified because she had a blue ball in her tube. You try typing up a show as it's going on. Please, be my guest. The blue ball may have bounced into her tube but Dick didn't put it there. Why the outrage anyway? Jameka's still in the house.
Posted by: frosty at September 6, 2007 11:34 PM
Let's hope Zach uses common sense this time and puts up at least one of the Donatos, hopefully Daniele. The only way Zach or Jameka will get to the final two is if D and D are gone. Daniele showed her true colors as a sore loser tonight, whining about the game. She is pathetic and needs to go. Once she is gone, Dick will be lost. I am waiting for her to get back into her skimpy clothes and work her wiles on Zach in the HOH room. Hopefully, this time Zach will not fall for it.
Posted by: Ronjj at September 7, 2007 12:18 AM
somebody please tell Zach Budwiser sucks. Thanks. P.S. I think his Dad doesn't like that he drinks. Oh, please read out loud try to understand what has been written to you. re-read.. re-read.. oh man, it's huge dude, I now understand that.. burp.... and oh yeah.... I'm worse sounding then ED, that would be Evil Dick, people don't like him, they like me, I'm goning to WIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!BURP..........
Posted by: chris at September 7, 2007 12:20 AM
HOW STUPID ARE YOU?..........ZACH
Posted by: chris at September 7, 2007 12:26 AM
i really wish jess could've stayed longer...now i hope jameka wins. i really never liked her, but she's the least annoying/cocky in the house. as long as dick doesn't win, i'm good. :)
Posted by: befbifbeth at September 7, 2007 01:20 AM
I am with BBFanTo up there, I also have a 21 year old daughter also Danielle, and yes they do all whine these day's.
I cannot dislike Daniele simply because she whines. Give me a break! HAA! Really people give her a break she has done very well in this game. Even after half the house turned on her, when she was right about Eric. Jessica whined just as much as Dani did.
I like both D/D but the people that keep saying she treats him badly, I think he has earned what she give's him and has a right to be touchy with him, I would be if he were my father and didn't raise me. She will grow and learn. But for now people give her the credit she has earned.
I expect Zach will put Jam and Dick up, He will not put Dani up out of respect for their friendship and his friendship with Nick.
Jameka is gone unless she wins POV.
I like Zach but I do not respect his game, he sat back and hid until he needed to start winning, which is a very cheap way to slide through.
D/D To the End
Posted by: Angel at September 7, 2007 01:46 AM
You gotta be kidding if you expect Zach to nominate the Donatos. He was too dumb to realize that he had the opportunity to make the greatest power move in the history of BB. He won the POV in tonight's live show, and could have saved either nominee and foreced Dick to put his daughter on the block, and wave goodbye !
I never thought much of Zach, but that move alone would have turned me into a fan. Not to mention, wouldn't he rather head into the final 4 with three other individual players, than have to overcome a two-player tandem?
He's a complete idiot, whose (1)Scared top death of Dick, and (2) Thinks Danielle actually likes him...How can he not see that he's playing for 3rd at best, by doing the bidding of D&D...Fool
Posted by: Jon H at September 7, 2007 02:05 AM
It looks like Zach is nominating D/D. This is the best way for him.
He knows that the remaining Donato would rather take him rather than jameka to the F2.
I think Zach is gauranteed a place in the F2 unless Jameka wins HoH next thursday and decides to take ED. Jameka has not won a single competition. I highly doubt that she will win any competition.
It looks like Zach is in the F2. The second place is up for grabs.
I just hope that Jameka doesn't end up as F2. Seh has done nothing to deserve to be there.
The Donatos have played a mean game. But, atleast they played it.
I would be happy If either Zach or Dick won BB8.
Dani is a spoilt whiner and Jameka has just done NOTHING.
Posted by: d00by at September 7, 2007 03:34 AM
WOW! i guess this year really is crazy well i have a feeling that zach will stick to the main plan and out put dick and jem up... atleast i hope so then i hope dani wins the pov... keeps the noms rhw same obviously and votes out jem... :) that would mean that dick and danielle would be the final too.. though if zach is smart he'll put up dick and dani.. though dani is good at winning the veto and i think dick would probably be good too so i basically think either way it's fucked!...
Posted by: jessy-Lynn at September 7, 2007 04:06 AM
I hope Jameka wins POV! I am sick of Dani whining all the time. She needs to go. She is mean to her Dad and it is all about her! She is such a bad sport and I don't want to see her win anything else. I'm for Zach or Jameka now!!
Posted by: janie at September 7, 2007 04:12 AM
There are two basic scenarios...
SCENARIO A --
** Nominated: Donatos | POV: Jameka or Zack
In this case, Jameka votes for a Donato to go home.
** Nominated: Jameka & a Donato | POV: Jameka
Jameka removes herself and votes for a Donato to go home.
Now, either of these scenarios would leave Zach, Jameka, and a Donato for the final HOH competition. Unless Jameka wins her first competition, it will be a Donato and Zach in the final two. Jameka likely keeps Zach as well, if she does win.
SCENARIO B --
** Nominated: Donatos | POV: A Donato
In this case, the POV winning Donato votes Jameka to go home.
Nominated: Jameka & a Donato | POV: Zach or a Donato
Dick or Danielle votes for Jameka to go home.
These scenarios would leave the Donatos and Zach, with the chances fairly high that the one of the Donatos would be the final HOH, keeping the other and sending Zach home. Zach probably keeps Dick, as others have indicated above, if he wins the final HOH.
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THEREFORE: Zach has an 80% chance of making the final two. Dick has a 60% chance. Danielle has a 40% chance. Jameka has a 20% chance.
The possible combinations - based my scenarios above - are:
Scenario A: Jameka & Zach, Danielle & Zach, and Dick & Zach
Scenario B: Dick & Danielle, Dick & Zach
Posted by: Jim Johnson at September 7, 2007 04:24 AM
I really hope Zach pulls his head out of his rear and puts up Daniele!!
Posted by: amber at September 7, 2007 04:27 AM
zach's winning a lot, it makes me wonder if he was just throwing competitions till the end???
that would make him a start player,
who knew he had it in him
Posted by: josiegt at September 7, 2007 04:52 AM
i agree. split the d's up like now!!!! get rid of dani whining azz!!!!!! she is not thinkin bout her dad at all. and she is very selfish. dick will share the money with her and really is compassionate but her......just get her out of the house. put up both of thm and let jam kick dani out. but you are right zach wont win with jam in the house. i just hope that zach does the right thing and puts up d n d tho. cause if he doesnt his days are numbered if he even thinks that he will be one of the 2 left.
Posted by: FANATIC313 at September 7, 2007 04:59 AM
Hopefully, Zach will break up the donatos! He really needs to because that is the only alliance left in the house. Dani preferably should go next as she is the strongest competitor and his biggest threat for winning the next HOH, although I am thinking Jameka may surprise us all!
I hope he realizes that if Dani and Dick are left and one of them wins HOH they will of course take the other one, however, if Jameka wins, she will probably take Zach; I don't think she will take one of the D's based on principle and which ever D/D is left they will chose Zach because they know there is NO WAY they can win against Jameka.
He is in a good position, but he is really in like with Dani, and will just wind up making a fool of himself because of it.
Posted by: S at September 7, 2007 05:03 AM
not to long ago dick and daniel were both on the block...and what happened? dick won veto and what did he do with it? he gave it to dani. So, if zach puts up the danotos and dick wins veto again...exactly, he will give it to dani. the thought of that just makes me so mad. how many times does this man (can't stand him, by the way) have to sacrifice himself? do you suppose if dani wins it she will pull dick off? no way! she already told dear old dad she would not split winnings even though he has done ALL her dirty work to get her where she is now.
we know zach does NOT want to take jameka to final 2. he knows she will beat him with jury. that means he has to put her up... so which danoto does he put with her? my hope is it is daniel. she NEEDS to go. she may be a good competitor but the thought of giving this whining, spoiled, hateful girl 500,000 dollars makes me want to vomit. jameka (not my favorite player) NEEDS to win that veto or she goes home. zach needs to keep in mind the d/d duo is a force to be reckoned with. he should have used last night veto to rid house of dani but alas he didn't. i am so disgusted with him... i am now rooting for him. good luck zach... i guess you would deserve to win
Posted by: calie44 at September 7, 2007 05:40 AM
Too bad he didn't use the veto to get Dani out. He would have Eric there to help him get Dick out and they could work to get Jameka out and Z and Eric would be final 2. Stupid stupid stupid.
I'm sure I'll get over last night's episode in due time...
Posted by: Stephie at September 7, 2007 05:47 AM
first off i got to say congrats to zach. i honestly didn't think he had it in him. i just hope that dick is not going to be the one walking out the door next. i love dick and wanted it to be dick and daniele or dick and zach in the final. but right now it seems zach is forgetting that old adage about dancing w/the one that brung you and seems to be making deals w/jameka. i only hope that zach takes 2 seconds and realizes the HE CANNOT WIN AGAINST JAMEKA. with her bestest buddies in the jury house no one can win against jameka at this point. that really really sucks in my opinion. and before everybody starts their incessant complaining about daniele's incessant complaining...yes she has been a whiny, bitchy little brat who should be sent to her room without any supper...but if you were soooo close to $500,000 you could almost taste it...and could feel it falling out of your grasp because of the difference of 1 number...i think you'd be bitching and moaning up a storm too. i know i would!
Posted by: alex's mom at September 7, 2007 05:50 AM
Jam and Dani have to go on the block. Z doesn't have a chance of winning the final against Jam, especially with the sequester gang on Jam's side. So, I'd like to see Z win the POV and keep Jam and Dani as the noms. If Dani is on the block, Dick will have to throw it so he doesn't take her off, b/c then it's his ass up there. If it works out that way, Jam will leave, and rightfully so, b/c she really has no game this season whatsoever.
I'd like to see Z and Dick in the final and I don't care who wins it from there - well, preferably Dick, I guess.
After that whining from Dani last night, I don't want her even in the final two. She has so much growing up to do. I feel for her father having to put up with her crap. I know it can't be easy for him.
Posted by: dk at September 7, 2007 06:05 AM
OK MAYBE zack will grow some this time. he has made some bad mistakes just like everyone else. but to let the d's rule the house and got rid of all of the other 'two' enemies is a trip!!!! they should have broken them up very fast thats a alliance in an alliance. father and daughter please. hes not goin to vote her off and shes not going to vote him off cause hes her backbone and he loves her but dani is selfish and using dick where as dick truly loves dani and wants her to win.
Posted by: FANATIC313 at September 7, 2007 06:09 AM
Before finding out that he'd won HoH, I thought Zach was a moron for not using the veto on Eric and forcing one of the DDuo into the hot seat and eliminating one of the two person team. Definately would have made my "dumbest moves"list, only topped by Marceles' idiotic move a few seasons back.
I'd like to see D&D get burned from here on out. I think Zach actually hid his abilities early on in the show. I had actually thought he and Nick had intended as such. Think about it, chain smokers, whiners, and druggies versus ex-pro-football and work out freaks. Nick holding back was a flaw, Zach's has worked amazingly to his benefit.
He's won how many of the last few comps? Judging from his rationales and discussion in the DR, he's obviously not a dum3as$.
Zach FTW.
Posted by: Clay at September 7, 2007 06:11 AM
Jam's preached herself into a corner, she gave her word to the Donatos, so will her much flouted ethics prevail or will she join Zach and take out Dani?
Zach was helping Jam move her still packed bags into the SR last night on BBAD, and afterwards they had a talk where she seemed resigned to leaving next, but I fell asleep and don't know how that conversation ended. Anyone get the same impression?
It seems that Zach is going to keep his alliance with D&D and take his chances against Dani for the final HOH. I think that takes a lot more stones than BDing Dani, plus he can't win next to Jam as she has the jury sympathy vote; she's got to go.
Zach took advantage of not fitting in with the cool kids to play a stealth game, obviously throwing comps. His assessment of the game play has turned out to be pretty accurate as his making an alliance with Dani late in the game proves.
Eric was supposed to be this big BB expert/fan but played with his little head and ego. His parting words and interview with Chanbot reveal him to be a petty vindictive man. Ugh.
IMHO- had Jess listened to the advice Zach gave her in the BY and not been Eric's tool she wouldn't be in sequester.
Go Ogre!!
Posted by: BJ at September 7, 2007 06:19 AM
Well you know who I want to win POV... cuz I love me some Danielle... whether she's in one of her more mature stages or one of her whiney little brat stages... she's my girl....!! :)
Posted by: Ben F at September 7, 2007 06:31 AM
How does it work? If Zack will put DD on the block and J wins POV and save one of D. Won't Z be forced to nominate J? How about the winner of POV can not be nominated?
Posted by: saskia at September 7, 2007 06:34 AM
Thanks Hamster Dame. This is a lot of work, and the best forum on the web.
Seems many people on this board speculates the winner based on their favorite.
For better or worse, Jameka will go home unless she can win POV. Zack may look like a dufus, but he knows that D/D have betrayed everyone in the jury house.
Jen, Dustin, Amber, Jessica, and Eric. Common, which of them gave Dick a big hug on the the way out the door? Zack is a sure win against Dick.
Zack is now the odds-on favorite to be in the final two, and his smartest play is to have Dick sitting next to him.
Personally, I want Dick to win the whole thing. But I can't see the jury giving it to him. He would only have two votes--Danielle and AP.
Posted by: Jeff Chandler at September 7, 2007 06:53 AM
Good question, Saskia. I wish I knew the answer. This game gets too damned confusing when it gets towards the end, especially since they (the Gods of BB) monkey with it every year.
If Dick wins the $500k he'll end-up Richard Hatch's cell mate for tax evasion. Carol's Dad might only be a [i]state[/i] senator, but he still has connections. I predict the IRS will be up Dick's ass like a proctologist with poor depth perception.
Mark my words: If Danielle wins the $500K in five years there won't be a penny of it left. She's so useless and she looked like a painted hooker last night.
Speaking of make-up, what was up with Chenbot's glitter!?! I don't knwo what was funnier, the glitter, or the fact that somebody removed some of it during each commercial break.
Posted by: EricC at September 7, 2007 06:55 AM
OK,
Where is the sequester house footage?
Do we think there has been none because Jen isn't there?
Posted by: EricC at September 7, 2007 06:58 AM
I wish I could see this group go again with Eric not playing as AP...lol.
I hope Dick wins it all at this point...or Jam..or Zach...anyone but Dani!!!! Maybe if Dick wins...Dani will be nice to him...that would be fun to watch! lol
Posted by: Jessfan at September 7, 2007 07:08 AM
If Jameka goes home this week. Zach can't compete for HoH next week, either Dick or Danielle win HoH and with no PoV Zach goes home. It's not that complicated.
Jameka going home this week guarantees 100% that Zach goes home next week. So Zach will put up D&D (the scumbags) and do his best to win PoV to keep it that way.
Then Zach has to root for Dick to win the final HoH at which point Jameka goes home since she'll beat everyone in the final 2.
Simple stuff.
From HD - Zach can compete for HOH next week.
Posted by: Me at September 7, 2007 07:26 AM
Via EricC:
"If Dick wins the $500k he'll end-up Richard Hatch's cell mate for tax evasion. Carol's Dad might only be a state senator, but he still has connections. I predict the IRS will be up Dick's ass like a proctologist with poor depth perception."
ROFLMAO hysterically!!! Between the Richard Hatch and the IRS Dick better CLENCH!!!
Via Jeff Chandler:
"For better or worse, Jameka will go home unless she can win POV. Zack may look like a dufus, but he knows that D/D have betrayed everyone in the jury house."
And that's what makes me proud to see our Zachy wearing that crown! He knows exactly who to sit next to in the final two. Either Donato, and he wins it all! I think he's utterly brilliant and has played one of the most subtle, strategic games BB has seen in all it's incarnations.
You go Zach! You have made me your undying fan!
Posted by: Riverqueen at September 7, 2007 07:52 AM
It does not matter who is put up on the block. Whoever wins POV says who goes home. Period.
Posted by: Hello at September 7, 2007 07:58 AM
I was very disappointed by the outcome of the DE lastnight- although not at all surprised. D/D are definitely playing the game but I bet that they are completely besides themselves with Zach having won the next HOH. I bet Danielle will be sticking to Zach like glue for the next few days flirting and so on to try to stay in the house. If Zach were smart, I think he'd nom the dynamic duo out. People keep saying that they wouldn't want to be up with Jameka and I guess that's true and she will have to go if Zach wants to win it. His best bet is to get Daniele out now while he has the oppt'y as HOH and Jameka next week.
Posted by: Moon at September 7, 2007 08:05 AM
loved the show last night & the POV just killed me. couldnt wait to find out who won HOH & cant believe it was zach! i just hope he plays wisely. but i wonder if he was in the final 2 would the jury want him to win or think he was just a slacker?
good grief HD did your number of posters triple? :)
Posted by: Jude at September 7, 2007 08:06 AM
Had Eric not been AP, IMHO, he would have been out of the house before Kail.
Zach approached all the final power players quietly and all but Dani were too caught up in their own egos and blew him off. Dani may be an annoying spoiled brat, but once Nick left she began to play the game...plus I'm beginning to wonder if the Nick thing wasn't game too. It was a great cover and allowed her float while ED flushed out their serious opponents.
I expect to see Nick & Dani team up on TAR soon. If Dani places in the money they may be the next Rob & Amber. CBS has learned how to work high rating players from one reality show to another. Plenty of BB fans would watch TAR just to cheer or sneer at a N&D team.
Posted by: BJ at September 7, 2007 08:14 AM
I wonder if Dick had not been in the house would Dani be this whiny? No. Would she have made it this far? Maybe not. But Like AP she has had to over come a huge unfair disadvantage, and work with it. I think she did pretty good. I hope she wins.
Posted by: boop at September 7, 2007 08:29 AM
zack must decide what is the bigger threat: jameka in the final two or dani's strong game play in competitions. since he's said that second place would be fine for him, he's probably best served by putting up jameka and danielle for noms then if he wins pov, sending dani home.
though, it doesn't matter much either way because no matter who the final three are, zack would be the first choice to go home by any of the other players. for him, it's win the next hoh or go home...
Posted by: lagger at September 7, 2007 08:44 AM
There is something else Zach needs to consider
What move will get Zach to final 2 with a chance to win some money? If one of the Donatos dont get voted out, Zach comes in third. If one of the Donatos do get evicted, Zach has a chance of winning the Big money. If he is sitting next to Dick, He will win it all. If he is sitting next to Jameka, he HAS to point out his better game play over Jameka. Either way, he can come out with some money. That would be better than playing for 3rd.
I am "praying" for a miracle.
GO JAMEKA!
Dark in da House
Posted by: darkling45 at September 7, 2007 08:58 AM
Has anyone read about Dani not putting her Mic on and refusing to go into the DR? I read she was be a b%%ch and said "I'm not talking" (the reason for not wearing her mic).
Posted by: TC at September 7, 2007 09:00 AM
Yea for Zach! Love it. I think he will put up D&D, and he or Jameka have to get the POV. Last couple of weeks of BB, POV is the power. I want Jameka voting out Dick or Daniele.
Here is the best part, we get to vote who wins the $$$. Poor Eric, they should give him an extra $10,000.00 for not being able to cast his own vote for the winner!
Posted by: BBFANINDALLAS at September 7, 2007 09:06 AM
Yay Mr.Ogre!! I am going for Zach all the way! I am sooooo over DD..even JE...no more....I never had any favourites through this season, but I am liking Zach more and more...well by default because I dont like anyone else in the house. Is that fair? I dont really care! Go Zach Go!!! Zacha and Jameka final two!
Posted by: Linda at September 7, 2007 09:11 AM
Here's the deal people, I want zach to win. Why is that? well through the whole game people have harrased him and pretty much said he was a nobody. now he has won three of the last four must have comps to stay in the house. And poor little dannie can't understand how the ogre was able to beat her.
Posted by: sean at September 7, 2007 09:13 AM
u kno reading thru everyones comments and just got me to thinking......zach has played them all lol lmao from the beginning. better than the d's. WOW!!!!! now thats game and a damn good player!!!!!! i want zach to win. lol lmao he has outthunk everyone and been 3 steps ahead of everyone in the game. YOU GO ZACH!!!!
Posted by: FANATIC313 at September 7, 2007 09:57 AM
I do not think Zach would nominate Dani...just because hes closer to her and as we have all seen he sticks to his word. Because he could have gave Eric pov last night and Dani would have went up and they both could have sent her home. But he stuck with his word...so i can't see him going back on it now. So i see him putting up Jameka and Dick.
Posted by: Jenny at September 7, 2007 10:04 AM
If Zach had any common sense he would have broken the last alliance up last night, why he didn't use the POV and put Dani up is way beyond me. Why would you leave such a powerful alliance in tact going into final four. If he would have used it and evicted spoiled, whiny Dani last night the playing field would have been even and easier, no alliances and everyman for himself. What a fool.
Posted by: Barbie at September 7, 2007 01:03 PM
Question: Did anyone catch the convo between Jamecka and Zach in the backyard last nite? While Dick was in the DR and Dani off pouting somewhere, Zach was making a deal with Jamecka about putting up the Donatos. He wanted cash from her and told her even if it is 100 bucks after the show was all but forgotten --- she could come to his house and pay him something for advancing her. Naughty, naughty... Then the DR called him in and told him it twas a no-no apparently becuz he yanked Jam (after telling Dani he needed a private moment with Jam to discuss something that may be game related and needed just a moment) into the workout room and told her that it was unprofessional of him and she shouldn't mention it because it would reflect badly on the HER!!! Just think what was going on in Dani's mind after that little escapade!!!!
lol I think a penalty nom on him would be a great twist.... He has to put himself on the block...
Now Dani is whiney I have to admit, but please at least both the Donatos have played the game at full tilt and I must admit very strategic.
I hope he keeps his word to the Donatos and puts up Jam and Dani. I always liked Zach but, after that conversation with the pathetic floater Jam, about asking for money to keep her in the final three --- I think he lost my vote to Dick. Can't blame it on the booze even if he was drinking like a fish. Too much body weight to blame that it was the booze talking!!!
Posted by: Bren at September 7, 2007 01:43 PM
AARRGGHH...another floater to win the prize? Zach was the consummate floater... never did anything until just now and flipped flopped with each and everyone he spoke with... what we have here is another deja vu all over again with zach/jameka replacing maggie/evette... all fingers crossed, candles lit, sacrificies to the gods, penny in the wishing well, prettypleasewithcherriesontop .... anything but them!!!!!
Whew, much better thanks, :)
Posted by: terry at September 7, 2007 02:39 PM
i think that zack can win again jameka but not ed or dani he need to keep jamka and get rid of dani are dick he want win again any of them i hope he is smart.the jury will pick the best player i don't carebut they alway do and not the one they like.
Posted by: ramona at September 7, 2007 04:08 PM
Will everyone leave Dani alone! Everyone in this game has whinned. Zach showed his a-- when he was on the block. They all have. She's still young, the girl has played her game. Zach needs to get Jam out are she will be in the F2 and win and have done nothing in the game.
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