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Wednesday, August 16, 2006

Double Standards

Something's been bugging me in the Big Brother community lately. I see it here on Silly Hamsters and I see it on all of the other Big Brother sites out there. It's the Janaticism out there.

Now before all the Janatics out there start throwing stuff at their computer screens and cussing me out let me finish.

I totally get that Janie has a lot of fans. I completely understand how her fans want her to go all the way in the game and take home the big money. I get it and I think most people get it. Hell, as I posted yesterday, I started off being a Janie fan. I quickly began to dislike her gameplay and I've been getting mucho entertainment watching her get played by CT/LOD. But do I hate her? NO! Do I despise her? NO! Do I wish her ill will? NO! Have I ever trashed her on this site like others have? NO! Would I rather somebody else win? YES! If she wins will I be upset? NO!

Now back to the Janaticism. I'm not using that term for her 'regular' fans. I'm using that term for her fans that believe if somebody doesn't like Janelle then they must have a case of Janellousy. Because obviously everybody wants to look like Janie and be smart like Janie and have Janie's job and live like Janie does and travel where Janie goes and I could go on and on and on. But we've all heard it and know exactly what I'm talking about.

The Janatics spend so much time drinking the Janelle Kool-Aid that they don't even see her gameplay (or lack thereof) this season. And hell hath no fury compared to a Janatic. With the exception of Howie, they feel all of the other hamsters are liars and backstabbers and bitches and so on. If you even mention the name 'James' you can sense their heads spinning 'round and 'round and know it will only be a matter of time before the word 'evil' spews from their mouths and onto their keyboards.

What's so wrong with not being a fan of Janie's? Why is it so wrong to have liked her last season and NOT like her this season? Why is everybody in that house so bad and Janie's not? I've seen the same sort of crap spew from Janie's lips that I've seen spew from others in that house so why is Janie held up on this pedestal like she's some sort of goddess?

Please Janatics! Tell me!

* HD puts on her Janatic flak jacket*

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Posted by HamsterDame at August 16, 2006 10:47 AM

Comments

You know it comes down to this - I have to say I don't see Janelle sitting around mocking Danielle or Erika they way they do to her. Game aside those two ladies have a personal issue with Janelle and they don't try to hide it. I guess that makes me feel like at least Janelle doesn't take her issues quite as far back in high school as the rest of CH and the LOD do - yeah she gets annoying with her stupidity and lack of good game play and complete lack intuition, but she doesn't deserve to be bashed personally.

Posted by: Jami at August 16, 2006 11:17 AM

That's OK Hamsterdame you're entitled to your opinion along with the rest of us. Problem is Janie has played a prominant/dominant role right off the bat thus it was inevitable that she wound up a everyone's love/hate list. I think those that don't like janie...really don't like her and that is obvious on the feeds and that's ok too.

Every team has their fans and, as you know, they stick by them through thick and thin; in good and bad times. Janie has definitely been the target from the get go and she has survived albeit very tenuously in a house that has keep the pressure on to oust her on a very consistent basis. Got to give her credit for that. Anyway...you can take off your flakjacket, you won't need it.

Posted by: Sundowner at August 16, 2006 11:35 AM

This isn't a Janieism - but I believe they turned the volume down on the flames. YIPPIE

Posted by: Piehead at August 16, 2006 12:02 PM

There is nothing wrong with NOT being a Jani fan. That's why God gave us the ability to make our own choices and have our own opinion.

I was a big fan of Jani until her GAMEPLAY fell short of what it was last year. I don't agree with her being bashed on a personal level nor do I like it because I'm sure she is a nice person.

However, unless she steps up to be the gameplayer she was last year, I can't respect her "Game" nor her "actions" as a player in the "Game". Thus, I've changed my opinion of her as a "Gameplayer".

I would hope the "Janatic" fans as you so lovingly refer to them as, understands that we all have our own opinion and trying to force theirs on others takes our rights away as individuals. I used to like blue, but as I've gotten older I now like Purple, does that make me a bad person because I've changed my mind?

Posted by: Linnell at August 16, 2006 12:07 PM

Well I agree that everyone has their own fan base, just why then does it seem that Jani fans are so willing to not see her bad side. She is just as two faced as others, did you happen to notice after Dani said she was going to use the POV on herself that Jani was rolling her eyes?

What's up with that after her comment when she used the POV "I am going to use it to save myself" in the crappy little tone of hers. At least those of us who like other people can admit when they are being snotty. Jani fan seem to think that it ok if she does crappy things because she is being targeted, well everyone is a target.

Posted by: Dianna at August 16, 2006 12:10 PM

Ok I'm a Janie fans but I'm not fanatic about it either.

Now I understand Janie has made mistakes, that she has let others influence her decisions, she has lied and in someways betrayed her alliance by making deals with CT but I don't see her using people like CT has or like James does. I mean those three guys are going to use and use until it's time to throw them under a bus.

Also it seems like everyone in the house is really catty with everyone but I see the other HG really take it to the max and make it all personal. Janie calls Marci, Erica, and Dani names but have you seen how brutal Maric and Dani are when it comes to talking about Janie??

Now here's the number one reason why I still pulling for Janie, Janie plays the game. She has given it her all in the competitions. Yes Marci said he gave her that 2nd HOH that she won against him but Janelle didn't ask him to and who is to say that is really true. Come on it's not like they don't lie about stuff like that. Janie has won all those PoV on her own. Usually she is fighting to win them against the whole house. I don't see anyone handing her the games. Unlike Dani who was given, by Erica, HOH and given PoV. That's just weak. That to me is cheating and showing me that they can't win it for themself. I just don't see Janie being carried along the game like the rest of HG.

We don't all have to agree on everything and lets all Janie and non Janie fans try to get along.

Posted by: Vesta at August 16, 2006 12:12 PM

I am a Janie fan but I dont like the way she is benig manipulated by CT. Everyone in the house is against her and she cant see it. Remember people that it is just a game. People do things and act in ways in which they would not normally act.

Everyone is guilty of talking behind someone elses back. What it comes down to is HOH. If you are the most hated person in the house as long as you get HOH than you are safe. Why do you think Janie is still there lol!!!

Posted by: Lin @ work at August 16, 2006 12:48 PM

I think it's easy to become a Janie fan because she is in the underdog role. There isn't a person in the house who doesn't have a knife in their hand ready to place it directly in her back. The nasty, and even hateful talk of her behind her back is also a reason. Yes, they all talk crap about one another, but starting with Jase and moving on to James, the vile things they have called Janie is unexcuseable. Hate her ability to stay in the game, but personal attacks? Come on, really....that is why she has the fan base she does.

I don't think Janie is a rocket scientist, by any means, but I think she enjoys the game just as much as anyone else in the house, otherwise they wouldn't be there.

That is why I think Janie has her rabid fans, because she is being hunted by all the others, and every one wants to save bambi, don't they?

I'm a fan, but also realistic, Janie will not win because she lets a pretty boy turn her head, so be it. Once she is gone, I will keep watching to see what hamster the house goes after next. That is being a BB fan!

Thanks for the outlet HD, it's appreciated.

Posted by: Caolin at August 16, 2006 12:55 PM

I am a fan but only because I keep waiting for her to do the right thing. I voted for her to come back in but was worried because of her relationship with Kaysar. Last season she kept him up all night talking and he was in a fog most of the day because he didn't sleep all day like she did. This season he was not so much with her. He got to know the other players and Janelle had to find him to ask questions.

The plan was to take out the floaters or at least make them pick sides because if they united then they would be the controlling force in the house. James screwed this up when he jumped ship on them. He united the floaters as a group for his own good.

Howie has been telling Janelle what was going on but she wasn't sure to trust Will or not. The reason being that if it were only Will and Mike then they couldn't do much anyway. She wasn't going along blindly with Will but now she knows it was all for his benefit because he lied to her.
It might be too late to do anything about it but I don't think she has lost much because Marcy was bashing her behind her back anyway.

The perfect game at this point would be for Janey, Dani and Erika to unite and take out the guys. It won't happen because she can't trust them anymore than she can trust James, Will or Mike. It's bad when Howie is the only one you have. You have to take the bad(he does get nasty) with the good. lol

Posted by: Brenda at August 16, 2006 01:10 PM

Ha Ha ha ha, love it HD, and I totally get it. Last year Janie was our hero becuz we hated the Nerd Herd. Compared to the Nerd Herd Janie was (while not an angel exactly) but a queen or at least a princess. Janie got further in the game than the rest of her alliance, so she was put up on the pedestal.

I still like her and am rooting for her, but I have been disappointed in her alliance choices this year. And yes, I ain't too fond of James! LOL. He acts like such a know-it-all.
But yes, HD, you are absolutely correct, when it comes to Janie (and James too really) you either love em or hate em.

Posted by: BBFANINDALLAS at August 16, 2006 01:18 PM

I like Janelle. I voted for Janelle. I was eager to see Janelle whomp some ass in All Stars.

She is a freaking force of nature in the competitions.

But she falls way short in the real gameplay portion of this game. She has no effective strategic skills. And unless you consider locking yourself away in the HOH room 60-75% of the time to be social, she has zero social game as well. And that is where this game is won or lost.

At this point I want Janelle evicted as soon as possible to relieve us of all the Janatical (great word!) fervor and so that we can then focus on the BB 'game'.

I could care to the sum of zero about the backstabbing or the petty gossip/trash/slander/whatever. :rolleyes: I will leave judgments about that to real life. BB is NOT a nice game. It is a game of trench warfare and unless you come prepared to fight it you will be beaten badly. And the rest of these people came to play hardcore.

I am enjoying CT's, Dani's and James' gameplay immensely. It will be awesome to see this battle royale play out once the weak are purged from the house. As a long time fan of the BB 'game', it is gonna be an awesome thing.

Posted by: SimplyKimberly at August 16, 2006 01:23 PM

Hello HD great post today. I really really like what Vesta had to say, she hit the nail on the head, Janie has worked very hard at all the competitions, and POV's. Janey also feels very bad when she has to send someone out can't say that about all the HG's.

I'am Janey's #1Fan and you go girl you have my vote all the way. Thanks HD really like your post today. Have a great day everyone and let the Games begin.

Posted by: DONNA/ #1 BB FAN at August 16, 2006 01:29 PM

i too am a janie fan. are we still so protective of her due to the vicious nerd herd of last season? i think that is why she still remains so popular and why some people get so defensive about her. i hope she can stay in the game long enough to maybe get a clue about CT & LOD. or has she really known all along?

Posted by: jude at August 16, 2006 01:56 PM

What can I say I am definetely a Janie fan. She works harder than anyone else at the competitions. I hate to see her getting played by CT. Seeing her get played by James is even worse. I'm not saying Janie is perfect, but the level of personal attacks on her is insane. The same people who keep saying it is just a game take it way too personal. I hope to see Janie do well, but she is going to have to open her eyes and really see what is going on around her. After all she can't win every comp.

Posted by: julie at August 16, 2006 02:06 PM

I started out the game as a fan of Janelle's, but was tolerant of other points of view. However, her attitude this season, and the nominations BB6 put up really turned me off. It seems like she wanted to alienate everybody in the house except Chilltown. She felt that everybody who didn't show their hand right away was a weak player, a floater.

However, I thought that was a legitimate strategy. I think everybody left in the game is a fairly strong player in their own way.

What really turns me off about Janelle are her hardcore fans. A lot of the fans she has left seem to have an either/or mentality. Anybody who doesn't agree they insult. Everybody not on their side is a bad guy.

I think part of the reason we liked Janelle last season was due to editing. I didn't get the live feeds last year, and I rooted for her the whole way. But now I'm seeing the bigger picture.

I really enjoy watching all the different strategies going on.

Posted by: Sandi at August 16, 2006 02:38 PM

I'm really confused. Isn't the point of Big Brother to win money not to make friends. Those who go on the show should know they are going to have to lie, cheat, back-stab and do whatever it takes to win. If they don't, they will get eaten alive. Take Kaysar for example. According to the vote, he is America's favorite. I assume because he was a nice guy. But you see where it got him. Evicted 3 times. A true fan of the show will enjoy the show not one person on it.

Posted by: Renee at August 16, 2006 02:46 PM

I really like Janie last year but I cant stand her this year. For all of thos who say she dosent talk about people behind their backs, Have you been watching the feeds? What about how she went on and on about Dani being such a B**ch, and all of the talk about Marci behind his back. Then she had the nerve to insult Dani to her face and tell her that she was weak. If you ask me she is jelous of any attention that any of the other girls get, which is why she has been targeting the girls in the house.

I am no fan of James, I think he is a jerk, and have a feeling he is a jerk in real life also, but why should he stick with them fully, he was the fourth in a three person alliance (which threw him under the bus last season). So if you were him wouldnt you have wanted to keep your options open?

Then for Janie to get busted by Howie lying in front of her alliance, about wanting to keep Dianne from getting the POV. Wow, I dont know about you but that dosent seem all that trust worthy and loyal to her alliance if you ask me.

So i will leave you all with this GO WILL!!!!!!

Posted by: concoon at August 16, 2006 03:37 PM

Janelle is still playing in Season 6. The biggest reason I have felt myself turn is because she is being a bitch in a game when it's not warranted. Last season, warranted, hands down, bye bye bitches, and all that went with it.

This season, she snips and snaps, crushes dreams, uses the veto on herself teeheehee... and for what? Just to be the underdog Janelle that she no longer is. Last season she was likeable and lovable, this season she is Maggie and April with extensions and a better tan.

Posted by: Kate at August 16, 2006 04:28 PM

After reading your post I could not agree more, with a lot of it. She is a little bitchy this season, but a lot of the moves that she has made, did kind of make sense. She wanted to get rid of the numbers, and the only reason James turned on her was because she was not listening to him. She was doing what she thought was best for the four of them.

To me James is playing the best game in there, he trust no one and is only out for himself. He is truely playing everyone.

Posted by: Cathie at August 16, 2006 04:37 PM

Oh the blogger rage! Thanks to you HD for providing those of us who are either too cheap, too lazy or just uninterested to watch live feeds,with the up-to-date moments of BB. You have an awesome job and Yes, you are entittled to your opinions.

As for me, don't like Queen Jane, didn't like her last year either, but its all about acting. And people do you really know any of these actors, I think not!! Keep up the good work HD.

Posted by: Mississippi chick at August 16, 2006 04:40 PM

Hi HD, Interesting topic. I think last year there was a lot more hate and high emotions coming from the fan base than I am seeing this season. And that is a positive improvement.
Most fans can separate the player from the person.

Hi, my name is Verity, and I'm a Janie fan. ;) The Pink Princess is not all sweetness and light (who can forget "pack you bags bitches") and I don't expect that from her. She also not all vile and pout. I thought using the veto to save yourself was a great move, but the acting she did while doing it made me cringe.

Is her game different from last year really? No. But the house is and she has not seen that. This will cost her the game. I hope she stays a while longer because I really do enjoy seeing her late at night. I also really really really really (I do feel strongly about this) hope that a couple of players that I dislike leave the game first. I don't dislike them as people, I don't know them. I just am sick and tired of them in the game.

Danielle - if I hear the hate spew from her mouth one more time about that stupid "weak" game comment that never actually happend I may have to reach through my screan and smack her. I'm studing up the technology and have the incentive to make a break through any day now.
I have seen poorer sports (hi April and Ivette). But I have never seen more concentrated hate for 0 reason. Frankly I turn off the feeds if I see her so that I don't lose my temper.

Marci - ...... where to start... Useless, boring, hateful, and my personal pet peeve "sure he is all dat"
I expected to really like him. And boy am I disapointed. Pack the robe and frappe la rue boy friend.

As a Jani fan, the one comment that I do feel compelled to make, is that there is a magnifying glass on her behavior this year. She calls Marci a name and claims he has to go and this is proof that she really is as bad as people say.. Any one heard what Marcellous says about her? Anyone else see the sickening way he cosied on up to her and then called her this behind her back? I really have not seen Jani do anything worse than other players nor have I seen her do anything worthy of being called a slut, whore, and fat.

James isn't on my top of has to go list but he's close.
1 - not entertaining.
2 - calls fans names constantly. - back at ya James
3 - moral superiority - it's ok for him to play with the goal of putting his survival first but it is not ok for anyone else to have a thought of their own.

I hope BB never does another All Stars show. I want to meet new people and see their ideas and dynamics. Put a previous player or two in there with them - that actually could be interesting. But an entire house of has beens, oh sorry "All Stars", is boring.
v.

Posted by: verity at August 16, 2006 05:55 PM

I think Janie fans are as delusional as Bush fans. **Ducks for cover**

HD - Maybe even more so???

Posted by: Steph at August 16, 2006 05:56 PM

Careful now, don't talk about my Prez...

From HD - Point taken. This isn't a political blog so back on topic. ;)

Posted by: Mississippi chick at August 16, 2006 06:10 PM

I started out a Janie fan - not fanatic but now I am a WILL AND JANIE fan. I love their chemistry. Even if its all make believe :)

Anywho, I think what gets me is that people are sooo opinionated either way about her. I have seen people torn to shreds because they do or don't like her on the message boards. I wish people would get real and get over themselves. Janie is just a person who has a shot of winning some money. Any of us could do what she's doing. She's studied the game and the past seasons and with the rest she flys by the seat of her pants. She is great at comps and that is what makes her a good player. Not her looks or her brains. There are plenty of pretty and smart people in this game.

Posted by: kandj at August 16, 2006 06:28 PM

Hi, HD, Thank you for giving me this opportunity to voice my opinion of Janelle's game play this season. I thoroughly enjoyed your article, Double Standards.

I am a senior citizen in my shady sixties and I have been a huge Janelle fan since the early part of season six. Yet, I have been very disappointed to see her behavior since Kaysar left the show this season. At least, that seems to be when the changes became very obvious.

Last season Janelle displayed many of the qualities of an intelligent, self confident, capable young woman who had courage, ambition, dreams and goals. This season she appears to be easily led by a man, extremely worried about what a particular man thinks of her and without self confidence.

Yet, she is still as competitive and when she wins a competition, it appears to be an honest win for her. She does not consider throwing a competition and she does not ask anyone else to do so to help her. She sacrificed a great deal for her most recent POV win while Danielle merely had her win given to her by other houseguests.

I have been disappointed by the immaturity of most of the houseguests. Their behavior is worse than many pre-teen children I know and that Janelle joined in without protest was unfortunate.

I think she has a sweet nature with a touch of bitch. I agree she has talked trash both seasons but I think she received more than she dished. Her devotion to Howie and accepting his idiosyncrasies is an example of the sweetness while her dismissal of Chicken George is bitchy, in my opinion.

There is no denying her physical beauty even without cosmetics.

I wish her well. I hope this season ends on a high for her and all her fans.

Thanks, again, for giving me this opportunity to share my thoughts about this lovely young woman. I guess I am still a big fan of Janie but I am drinking a little less kool-aid these days.

Elaine

Posted by: Elaine K at August 16, 2006 06:45 PM

You know what they say, "it's never as good as the first time" and that is true for BB allstars. I was so excited to hear about the Allstars this year, I thought my dreams had come true. But it just hasn't played out well, in fact, I am glad it is ending early. I have continually heard other people say that but, is it because our expectations were so high, or is it the whole Allstars concept.

And does BB resonate so well with all of us because in each show there might be one or two allstars but never a whole group of them? Or is it the whole "getting to know you" concept? I don't know.

But, bring on the double eliminations, and put this one in the bag. I still love you BB and all the BB fans.

Posted by: bbfanindallas at August 16, 2006 08:13 PM

Janelle posses that star quality that I can't help but watch her every time I see her on the screen. I think that we love Janie so much because she is entertaining to listen to and watch! She is always talking game (when she is awake) and she is not just sitting around plotting to back stab her former alliance and talking dirt about others. I understand that there are Janie haters out there and you are entitled to that, but in no way are you entitled to personally attack her, it is just a game!

I would also like to say that I am surprised how many people in BB land turn on the people they were rooting for, I have not always agreed with everything Janelle has done in the house, but I am not going to just turn on her and jump on the Janie Hating Ban Wagon, sorry NOT ME! Janie rocked last year and she is even more on fire this year Go Janie!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I would love to see Janie, Howie and Will for final three... I can hope can't I??? LOL

Posted by: Lindsay at August 16, 2006 08:35 PM

Unfortunately, even though Janielle is a smart woman, she like many a young women before her, loses her ability to think rationally when there is a man she finds attractive around. Remember Michael from season 6? Also, let's not forget what happened to Diane too!

Janielle also tends to go for the fast talkers and the ones with the smooth moves...hmmm, I wonder who that sounds like? She is probably used to that type because the quieter guys are probably afraid to approach her. I have to admit her game has been off and it's because of her distraction with Will. I can't defend it. Once all of this comes out, I'm sure she'll want to kick herself(and Will). There is always the chance she'll see the light and get back in the game full swing. Hope so...

I'm still amazed at the "type" of negative comments Janielle receives...fat, bi@*#ch,etc. Where the heck does that come from? It's almost as if her attractiveness is the main focus of some...and for others they spend so much time denying they have any feelings of envy or "jealousy" that I have to wonder why they feel they need to bother? Who cares if she is attractive? Let's face it..pretty much everyone in the house is above average in the looks department. They usually throw in one or two "average people" and the rest could be in soap operas!

Why can't we just stick to commenting on game and forget about hair, clothes, boobs, etc. Danielle is just as attractive as Janielle and yet no one comments on her looks. Danielle is also just as cunning as Dr.Will and her game play is equal to his in every way and yet she is thought of as a "sneaky, egotistical "black widow". Dr.Will on the other hand, is admired and thought of as a brilliant player.

Sorry, I guess I think sometimes women are held to some unbelievably high standards. Maybe that's why these "sweet, non-threatening" gals like Erica walk out of these games as winners while the broads that are actually playing the game are just criticized and dissected by all of us...what do you think?

Posted by: Kristi at August 16, 2006 08:53 PM

I liked Jani last year and was looking forward to seeing her play the game with All Stars. The way Jani played last year and handled herself with the Nerd Herd more than qualified her as an All Star player, and she seemed like an obvious choice. When it comes to competitions, no one fights like Janelle and she wins when it counts. Does she deserve to be here? Absolutely. Anyone who can pull off 3 HOH comps in 6 weeks time, absolutely deserves to be called an All Star. However, Jani is NOT playing like an All Star this year. What happened to smart, strategical Jani? Last year, Jani "played" the role of dumb blonde as part of her strategy. Viewers saw that Jani was anything but dumb, as she used chess to see how other HGs played the game. This is where she and Kaysar formed their bond and became "partners" once theirs had been evicted.

But this year, Jani doesn't seem to be playing the role of dumb blonde, she's become a dumb blonde. Her behavior a few weeks back when it came to flirting with Will - it certainly didn't look like acting to me!!! The blushing, giggles, batting of the eyelashes - It all reminded me of the HS girls chasing after the school jock! Her noms that went against her own alliance. What happened? As much as I like Janelle, I was hoping that she would be the one to be evicted last week, until she won the POV. Then she turns around & wins HOH on a second try!!!

The second HOH comp was totally fair - it wasn't just becuz Howie's buzzer didn't work. Nearly everyone of the HGs complained that at some time, their buzzer didn't work. I think the bad rap Jani got by viewers for that was unfair.

Name-calling, labeling, etc. - That's not for me. But I do think it's time for Jani to go. She's not the only one tho - I liked Dani during her season, and actually voted for her to get into the house this year - I wouldn't mind seeing her leave at this point either. Erika's another one - her little comment the other night "I come from a small town named Chill" - Where'd that arrogance come from???

I have been a Kaysar fan since last year, and lost nearly all interest when he went home last week. Why did Kaysar have to go home? becuz Jani screwed up when she made her noms - If she had just put up Will & Boogie - Kaysar would probaby still be there, and maybe James wouldn't have defected.

I'm still hoping to see a Kaysar & Jani pairing over on Amazing Race. I think Kay's would be an excellent player over there and would have a VG chance of winning - If jani played AR the way she played BB last year, I think they'd have a shot at winning. But BB? I think Jani's days are numbered, and I no longer think she deserves to win.

At this point in the game, I'm rooting for Chicken George!! He's the only one who hasn't made me nuts this year (other than his Thur nite costumes, which are getting a little ridiculous!). I wouldn't mind if he walked away with the $500G's - even tho I don't think that's gonna happen!

Posted by: jjlvsbb at August 16, 2006 09:45 PM

HD you have never been more right than this post.I feel exactly the same as you. I liked jani last year because she was the underdog. This year every time I see her I wonder why I liked her at all. You are so right about James as well. And then there is Kayser,I don't see how anyone can think he's anything but hot. He made a deal with CT week 2 and screwed his alliance. He lied about The Chicken saying he would vote to keep him, and had no strategy whatsoever. Kayser is probably the worst player in BB history and it isn't because he is nice.

As for Dani I am her devoted fan since season 3. I think she is more beautiful than Jani and she is naturally that way. Jani is fake from head to foot. Dani is smarter than Jani and if she is in the final 2 no one can beat her not even Will. I find Dani hilarious and I think she works as hard as Will and Will has earned that money.Most people hate Dani though some are coming to their senses. I don't understand it.

Another thing I don't understand is... why is Howie on that show? Howie is a disgrace I feel sorry for his mother. CBS made a mistake putting him in there. Marcy is a real disappointment as well because intellectually he has the game but he is so conceited and shallow and desperate to bask in Jani's shadow that he is on his way out. I think CT is controlling the whole game with Dani's assistance, and they will be dispatching Jani asap. With Howie soon to follow.

Posted by: hbobrenny at August 16, 2006 09:56 PM

janelle doesn't spew hate all over the place like some of the others. of course she is not an angel, but her game play is spot on, winning physical as well as intellectual challenges. she does seem less decisive than last season, but it is a whole different situation. i just wish she would wise up to james. he is a pitiful excuse for a man. at least dani and janelle know where they stand with each other, and the ct boys, well what can i say there. i do think boogie is playing erica as his "showmance" of the season, ans she will be so hurt. i would love to see janelle and will as the final two. and i agree, some of the bb posts are hateful enough, please leave politics out of the mix. kudos to hd for a wonderful job!

Posted by: Monkeybob at August 16, 2006 10:14 PM

Allright, what is it with all of the "Gameplay" talk in a negative light regarding Janie. IMO she is: trying her hardest to win comps, not needing others to let her win them; keeping the game above personal attacks, unless she's had a few drinks, you really don't hear her say bad things about others; staying loyal to the people she FIRST made her alliances with, she may be letting Will play her too much but she's even stayed loyal to James.

IMO the others are a combination of; liars and losers; people who attack others to make themselves feel better; backstabbing liars; people who know they can't win anything, thus creating a "strategy" of doing nothing but joining in hate sessions against whoever is in power at the moment.

So, with all of the talk about "Gameplay", I don't see how anyone couldn't respect Janie's above all others. Look at the history of BB and you'll see that the liars and backstabbers have not had anything else going for them in the game and have created a de-facto strategy that let's them, most of them anyway, be the real miserable person they are inside in an environment where their actions won't cause life long problems.

I hope Janie wins it all and I hope James, Danielle, Will and Boogie go down in flames and embarassment much like the crazy Cuban last year.

Posted by: azdodger at August 16, 2006 11:52 PM

What I object to in all of this is that even if you aren't a rabid fan, just a normal fan and you say anything proJainie everyone says you drink Koolaid and are crazy.

Just because a lot of people changed their minds doesn't mean I have to. It also doesn't support the idea that something is wrong with me just because I am her fan.

It is really hard to debate strategy points with people who call me names and say I'm crazy instead of saying so and so said this so that's why I think they will do whatever. Don't call me names then act like I'm somehow nuts and I won't feel defensive and argue back. That is the main problem I see, is fans labeling each other as wrong for their like of a hg.

Posted by: Ginger at August 17, 2006 12:28 AM

I feel the same HD!

I was rooting for Janelle last year and was interested to see her go all the way this season, but she's totally let me down. She just can't seem to thrive as well in the house without a clear cut division between those against her and those with her. Maybe she doesn't quite see the subtleties or doesn't trust those murmurs of betrayal (or refuses to act on them, in regards to James). I know the BB house is chock full of deceptions and rumors, but I'm kinda sad she hasn't stepped up to the plate.

As far as Janaticism, I just think that viewers like to support their favorites and some see the house in black and white. Maybe Janatics are still seeing Janelle's opposition as the Nerd Herd - and consequently, emulating that hate towards them. Just a guess. =)

I think all fans need to keep perspective when they watch the hamsters.

1. All HG are displaying a certain image at any given moment.
Sometimes its truely them, other times its to fit the situation they're in, the people around them, and the general atmosphere of the house. Hence, if everyone's hating on Janelle, wouldn't a HG join in? I'm sure no HG wants to seem to be associated with an unpopular HG. Furthermore, HGs tell other HGs what they want to hear, not necessarily what they mean.

2. Boredom permeates the house.
Think about what kind of entertainment and activities you would engage in if you were stuck in a house without things like the HGs are. Why, you may even start to talk smack about other people.

3. The game IS personal.
Every HG always says evictions aren't personal, but this game relies heavily on social interaction. Imagine getting to know a group of people (maybe even trust a few), being cut off from everyone you care about, and then being betrayed/evicted/nominated/played by someone you thought you knew. I think on some level (even if you don't admit it) there would be some animosity towards the responsible party. Believe it or not, this game is played on a personal level. Look what resulted in Janelle's comments about Danielle's and Erika's game play.

The whole debate over who trashed who more is moot. Heck, everyone is putting on facades, whether its hateful or not. Besides, isn't it a bit easier to betray an enemy rather than a friend?

Posted by: a at August 17, 2006 12:43 AM

Hi HD, you already know I'm a Janie fan from my many previous posts. Why am I you ask?

1. She is the underdog, as she was last year. 2. Her comments about people are more general hatefulness based on what the person has done in the game, not personal insults (like cunt, whore, slut etc) like the other guests (yes, you James, Jase, Marci, boogie etc.) 3. When she puts people up for eviction she really struggles with it because deep inside she has a warm heart and really hates hurting people. Just watch the feeds and you will know that.

I've never thought her a stupid player stratigically, just a little to trusting in people she shouldn't trust. AKA Will and Boogie. As I knew she would, she is now on to them and has voiced it many times. She knows will is playing her and she plans to use it to play him. Good for her.

Tonight James and Danielle were talking about not trusting Chill Town themselves and guess what, Danielle said that James was being crazy and that Chill town wouldn't turn on them. So who is the better game player? Janelle can go farther with Will in her back pocket knowing he is using her but not letting on, while Danielle is blinded and that would be her arrogance AGAIN.

Meanwhile, Will and Boogies strategy is to take out James in the next couple of weeks NOT Janelle. So who is really playing who? Go Janelle!

I don't agree with everything she has done, but she picked up on being played before Danielle did. So HA!!! I also believe that everyone has the right to their opinions as long as they are basing it on fact and not on rumor. The live feeders know what I'm talking about. Good night all!

Posted by: Janet at August 17, 2006 01:51 AM

Hey HD, good thoughts. I'm a Janie fan too, although not as totally supportive as some. I guess the reason I'm behind her so much is that I didn't get enough of her last season. I know, last year isn't this year, but it's hard to change sometimes, you know?

I do have to admit that this year I'm sadly disappointed. I get my hopes up after her DR sessions when it sounds like she's catching on to James and Marci, and then... well, the show speaks for itself.

The main reason I'm still supporting her this year? Simply, she is the only one in the house who I like. She's made mistakes and I cringe on her behalf, but I still have to cheer for her more than anyone else.

Posted by: Shel at August 17, 2006 01:52 AM

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O.k. guys ... huge speculation that Janelles BF "Big Daddy" has been identified as Dan Wilkinson, an NFL player just signed to the Miami Dolphins. Wow -- he's definately a BIG GUY, that's for sure. Hopefully Janelle is the one wearing protective gear when she's on a date with him.

Here's this "Janatic" keeping her fingers crossed that she does what's best for HER in the Eviction ceremony tonite. Good luck, Jani!

Posted by: Cutefemmegirl at August 17, 2006 03:38 AM

Thank You HamsterDame!! I have been waiting for someone to point this out. You rock and this is why i love ur site.

Right on!

Posted by: Brenna from Texas at August 17, 2006 06:47 AM

I like Jani.I think she play the game ok.james and dani are ass hold. the way they put jani down.but they talk about the hold house that way.i hope jani win that game to night i look it up in the bible and it say what you sow you reap.will i am hope she win. she same to know more about tham ct.they are still try to guess what it is but last night was talk to will and Erika that if you want to take off before vote you can. how would know that went ct don't know.i hope erika fine what dani up to befor she go out the door.dani could put ct up why did she do and get mad at jani becouse she did do it.i hate james the way he did his friend. they did not play his games so he went to the other sidewhat he want a pic candy.james is a baby.

Posted by: irongrumma at August 17, 2006 07:52 AM

Well said HD..I always get the feeling I need to defend myself for not being a Janie fan. I have been enjoying CT playing all of the HG


Posted by: Granny at August 17, 2006 08:35 AM

I was a huge fan of Janie's last year. This year I'm really just enjoying watch the game because a lot of my favorite players have returned. Why does Janelle have such fanatical fans? My guess is because Janelle seems more like one of us (Big Brother junkies). She is the only houseguest from the past that has come across as a huge BB fan herself. Just a guess.

Posted by: gnomegirl at August 17, 2006 08:42 AM

Hi HD: Well, let's get down to the nitty gritty.

I have no favorites in this game, but the way the rest of the house is playing, I much prefer Chicken George's style!

As for Janie being so down on George because he supposedly "swore to Kaysar on his wife and children that he would save him" has ben verified this morning, via an interview on our local radio station, as a myth. Kaysar reported that he didn't know anything about any such statement from George and he did not know where Janelle heard that! This phone call was recorded at 7:00AM on Kiim99.5 radio station in Tucson, Arizona.

I detest the way the majority of "ALL STARS" are playing the game. Each group thinks the other is being truthful and honest, when in all reality, none of them are, except George. Who would have thought!

I agreee, Howie should never have been on this All Stars game. He should go back to his childhood and relive, maybe he will then grow up!

I enjoy watching and commenting on the plays going on and seeing how each player is bamboozled by the other. Tonight's show should prove to be very interesting.

I hope all are entertained and let's not forget the jury! They are going to have a lot to say in the end. Better be careful players on who you stab in the back.

Posted by: Tucsonlinda at August 17, 2006 08:45 AM

I'm a Janie fan...always have and always will be....and here's why....

1. She actually competed, TRIED hard, and won 3 POV's this season thus far
2. She's tried hard, studied, and won 3 HOH's this season as well
3. She hasn't asked anyone to throw the veto or HOH for her so she could win...she doesn't need help winning
4. This isn't a "Team sport" and eventually you have to break off from your alliance...hence James I believe made the first move in breaking off
5. She's a badass, and that's all there is to it!

Posted by: Missingadigit at August 17, 2006 09:08 AM

Last year Janie was the underdog, and lots of us (including me) root for the underdog. This year so far she has not been and has had to play a different game. Yes she wins comps, but then she lets people influence her nominations. She almost stepped out of the box when she threated to nominate Chill Town but instead used what she thinks is a pawn. Janie and Howie are having the wool pulled over their eyes and swimming in a sPOOL of lies.

Posted by: Pam at August 17, 2006 09:31 AM

Just for the record, I don't care what the Janiacs think. I think she is a dumb, spoiled, snotty cow. her game play is lacking and if she makes it any further, I will hurl. She seems to think she is the queen of BB. NOT!!!!! A VIP Waitress? Is that the PC term for stripper?

Let's give the credit for game playing technique to those who deserve it. GO CHILLTOWN!!!!

Posted by: Shayne at August 17, 2006 12:05 PM

Perhaps we just like Barbie Doll/GI Joe mutants... Lord knows, Janie plays like GIJoe in the comps. I really like Janie - still do, but it does make me wonder about her being out in the "real world" after the show when she falls for Dr. Will's BS so easily. She has a trusting soul and wants to think the best of most people, til they cross her.

But dammmmit, she really has to have proof of betrayal, doesn't she?? Reminds me of myself, a little, about 25 years ago (yeah, I had the long blonde hair, etc, too - though not the perfect figure - enhanced or not - ). Another thing I'd like to ask - has anyone seen the cheerleader pics of Janie in high school - the ones with LOTS AND LOTS of brunette hair??? Why on earth would this girl need extentions?? She had massive amounts of hair on her head when she was 16 years old - extentions??? I don't think so... Boogies, yeah - extentions?? nah...

It may be the underdog thing that Janie has going, though the other HG's would disagree that she's an "underdog". She's been the main target since day one - and if that isn't being an underdog, then I don't know what is. I agree that her gameplay, such as it is, aside from comps, hasn't been up to snuff this year, but she's still there. Didn't think she had a chance after week 3. She's a force to be reckoned with in the comps - and the only way to get her out is to get her in a position where she can't defend herself.

Another thing. The language that Booger, etc. have used to descrie Janie has been way over the top. Using the C-word is beyond the pale, don't you think?? And they think they're so cute when they rip Janie to shreds behind her back... hope Boogie's mom was real proud of that display of his a couple of weeks ago. Good grief! where do they find these people?? They seem to throw all good sense, good taste and class in the flower bed by the front door as they enter the house. Such vitriol is astonishing from supposed adults. Junior High, anyone???

Posted by: silk at August 17, 2006 12:58 PM

I believe that Janie has a lot of fans because everyone knew where she stood right from the beginning. I don't think that it has helped her in the game. Because of her success in competitions and her being so upfront it has made her a target. Others are afraid of her and have pretended to be in alliance with her. At least Dani has been up front about what her plans are unlike most of the guys and Erica. Actually the only other person who is upront is Howie. I am not sure where CG stands but he seems to be flying under the radar.
I say whether you love them or hate them, Jani, Dani and Howie are the only ones left in the game who have been true to themselves and are not trying to win by being devious and underhanded.

Posted by: Diana at August 17, 2006 01:32 PM

Darnit, I hate making typos...Correction...yikes!...meant, "boobies" instead of "boogies" toward the end of my last post. Teehee.

Posted by: silk at August 17, 2006 01:49 PM

I know this is off subject, but has anyone else thought that Chicken George is Winston?

Posted by: ddeb at August 17, 2006 04:43 PM

I don't see how people can claim Janelle is the underdog this season. She and the season 6 gang dominated the first half of this season and of the four, she has almost became a bully about it. An underdog is George, not someone who came into the house on day one with an alliance of four. Go George and Will!

Posted by: Keven at August 17, 2006 04:47 PM

Wind of Janelles BF being NFL player Dan Wilkinson has hit "Naters", a very good friend of Janelles that is running her website, and he pretty much says that when she's ready to reveal her BF to her fans, she will. I get the impression that especially for now, this is just a huge internet rumor that has taken on a life of it's own. Either way ... they are all very fortunate to have each other as they seem like a great bunch of people. Anyway -- you rock Janey!

"The Janatic Fan Club"
(Club name courtesy of HD, lol).

Posted by: Cutefemmegirl at August 17, 2006 06:24 PM

I really have a question/problem.... don't get me wrong, Although I love Janelle, I'm not fanatical, but I just don't think that it was fair for BB to make/let people pay to vote for someone that wouldn't even be able to benefit.. Yes? No? I mean if that were the case, they should have been able to vote online as with the rest of the categories... you had to PAY for the privelege to give them an NO advantage. two more things #1. NOBODY (unless you were on the feeds) was aware until the contest closed (Saturday night) that Janelle was HOH and were willing to shell out cash to vote only to find out that she was inelegible (sp?) 2. not to mention that when they said that the winner would have an advantage, Erica was officially HOH, she was also an option to choose for prom Queen. If I were America, I would be FUMIN'!!!!!!!

Posted by: Me at August 17, 2006 07:09 PM

Gotta love Chicken George - hope his noms tonight turn out well. "Coup d'tat" will probably screw everything up though. Like I said - Janie's only safe when she's got a chance to compete. At least she'll breathe easy tonight, hopefully.

Oh, and Keven?? One is an underdog when the majority of people with whom your are competing do not agree with your point of view or set very little value in your play, basically. Or they're intimidated by your play - or your looks - or your charm - or your competitiveness and physical abilities. They all gang up on you... and then. They are out to "get you" and you become *bingo!!* an "underdog". Big target!

Loved seeing CG win the HOH, though!!

Posted by: silk at August 17, 2006 07:16 PM

I loved the BB6 group last year, especially Kaysar and Janie. She puts her whole heart into the game, a real fighter. But, the comment by Vesta that Janie was not 'given' any comps... Ah, I believe an Hoh was 'given' to her, indirectly by BB, no less, after she had LOST it. (The whole "re-do" bungle. Sorry, I'm still a little annoyed at that one. And, that would fall under the topic "Of Course".)
Back to the subject.

Janelle IS a strong competitor in the competitions, but, the strategy/gameplay is sadly lacking this year. I don't understand the fans that turn a blind eye toward any of their favorites just because they like them, for whatever reason. Just about every one of those people in there has talked badly about someone else, and backstabbed, lied, etc. Is that not part of the game??

Personally, I do not like Will or Boogie, but, CT DOES add a hell of a lot of humor to the show! Their strategy of non-competing while winning 'fabulous prizes' along the way, is hilarious. And, it is entertaining to watch them 'play' Janelle...and, every other person in that house.
CT deserves to win. (But, out of the remaining houseguests, I'm hoping CG or Dani can pull it off.)

Posted by: mj at August 17, 2006 09:14 PM

The same thing that draws us to Janie is what drew us to Scarlett O'Hara: the innocent-seeming smile, the sweetness behind her boldness, the cuteness in her cutting remarks. The world loves a pretty shrew...*shrug*

Posted by: lolly at August 17, 2006 10:08 PM

I think most people take up for Janie because we have all been in a place where people put us down and called us names unjustifiably. It's almost as if you can relate to it and feel the need to come to her defense. Just like the person referring to her job as a VIP waitress as a stripper. That is just wrong. It goes back to the saying that my mom told me when I was younger, People only put you down to make theirselves feel better. If you really love yourself and are happy with who you are you don't have to call other names. Janie may not be perfect, but it is the personal attacks that make people run to her rescue. That is why people tend to say it is jealousy.

It is one thing to voice your opinion about her gameplay but it is another to call her slut and fat. Clearly she has is not fat and has showed no signs of being a slut. Also people talk about her game play and that is a reason not to like her Ericka has none and noone is hating on her. When someone is playing hard, winning competitions (on her own!), and not getting respect, you have to wonder where that is coming from.

From HD - Well I've never called Janelle fat or any of the other names. Do I think she's pretty? Absolutely! Fat? Not in the least.

Posted by: Donya at August 17, 2006 11:10 PM

This is getting so frustrating. I voted to put Janelle back on the show. I like Janelle, but I'm ready for her to go home. If I hear Howie say, "Thanks Janie" one more time, I will scream!

Janelle is probably the most fierce competitor on the show. Her wins speak for that. Will brings the fun to the show as the guy you love to hate, and that is his intention. He probably deserves to win as he has been the sneakiest of all the players (which is how he won the first time), but he is fun to watch. James defected from BB6 because he knew that when it came time, he would be the first of their bunch to be tossed out. In order to stay in the game, he had to make other alliances to survive.

Boogie rides along on Will's coattails, Howie rides on Janelle's, and Erika is just plain boring. I'm getting sick of Danielle thinking she is so much smarter than the rest of the gang. So where does that leave us? Chicken George. Never thought I'd say it, but I hope he wins the whole damn thing!

There have been several comments on blogs as well as from the HG themselves about the show being scripted, certain aspects being fixed, certainly creative editing which is expected (but pretty obvious when the 2 of the 4 camera feeds are focused on close-ups of Janelle during the HOH re-do) etc. Any thoughts on this?

Posted by: jnanner at August 18, 2006 03:23 AM

Bottom line, (to all who chat, everywhere) it's a game, we aren't playing it, stop taking everything so serious and enjoy all of it. Every one of us is allowed an opinion, and to debate on it, friendly like. Other than that, I just wish we'd all keep it fun.

Posted by: beanisback at August 18, 2006 09:53 AM

I am personally a fan of the show but I don't think James and Boogie need to spend all their time talking down to the other people and especially the women on the show.. Yes I am a Janie fan and I don't like Dani because she is playing to the camera all the time.. I don't like Erika because she is using everyone and that phoney laugh of hers is driving me nuts.. Ok, That is my opinion.. I don like Jani but I don't approve of her using that language the others use. It sure doesn't become her.. As for Will and Boogie I don't think they are funny at all. Ithink they just act stupid.. Sorry

Posted by: Pat at August 18, 2006 06:08 PM

Yep! another janie fan here! At this point Janie should be talking it up in the DR. She should be trying to go to the end with Erika. If I were her I would be saying "I'm in a secret alliance with Erika and she doesn't even know it". LOL I think that would be her only way to win the moolah! Go Janie Go!

Posted by: whatup at August 19, 2006 10:24 PM